Does anyone want to make the case that Angleton wasn't a traitor who should have been given the death penalty for giving a foreign government the bomb without authorization?
Only 21% of the American people support a war with Iran. Ambassador Huckaby's response: so what? The American people have no say in when we decide to start a war except indirectly when they vote for their representatives, most of whom are controlled by Israel.
JFK & RFK were working hard to investigate Zionist's and their activities here in the U.S. in their efforts to force them to register as agents of a foreign government. Both were murdered in Public. Israeli Intelligence compromised JJA by way of his relationship with them. When the Kennedy's moved to stymie Zions activities in the USA the Zionists were caught. Had investigations came to fruition JJA helping NUMEC would have been exposed at some point. This reality was driven home when JFK publicly announced he forbade Israel from obtaining nuclear weapons, non-proliferation was his firmly held policy. At the time the deceptions at NUMEC AND USAEC were ongoing. Timing became critcal JFK aand RFK had to GO AWAY.
They did not know I firmly believe anything about NUMEC if they had things would be different today.
JJA was a Zionist as were many others at CIA. Both CIA and the Zionists involved havegotten away with the crimes on the last century to this day, he blood lust of Zionists and Zionist Jews continue o this very moment.
The thing speak loudly for itself. Zionism has spoken loudly from the depths of deception for years. My opinion is those individuals must go away now from America. John and Robert were right in suspecting the individuals they sought for foreign agent registration were engaged in activities which were bad for the USa. Thing have only gotten worse ever since. IMO!
Why is this antisemitic rant acceptable on a site supposedly focused on fact-based investigation? This Robert E Williamson jr. is calling for the removal of the Jewish people and promoting the proven false claims that are known as blood libel. Jefferson, you are completely losing your credibility by stoking these dotards. You are launching antisemitic innuendos and enjoying the chatter. So disappointing.
Also relevant is Colby’s Church Committee explanation for firing Angleton was because Colby didn’t trust Angleton to handle Israel. Angleton’s Church Committee testimony admitted this was true. Colby could have avoided further scrutiny of CIA by quietly deflecting the counterintelligence chief’s treasonous behavior as a professional and structural disagreement. “What if” Colby knew Angleton was part of the JFK plot, Angleton knew Colby knew, and, reading between the lines of Tad Szulc’s Church Committee hearing, Angleton had to lie to deny Szulc’s statement that Szulc’s source told him that Angleton delivered assistance for Israel’s nuclear weapon development in the late 1950s and early 1960s. While Angleton denied it, Szulc’s source said the assistance included fissionable material. Are we to believe Colby didn’t understand the implications of CIA plotting with Mossad at this time?
Angleton Is the one who set up Oswald as the patsy for the assassination of JFK by tasking Ruth Paine with getting close to Marina so she could manipulate Lee through her. Ruth Paine got Lee Oswald the job at the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building three weeks before the assassination.
IIRC, JFK's route past the TSBD into Dealy Plaza was not announced to the public until the day before the assassination. Oswald had no way of knowing JFK's limo would pass by his building before then. It was a "last minute" change, but of course it could have been planned for weeks or months prior to 11/22/63 in Langley.
The original site that the speach JFK was going to make in Dallas was . However, the Women's Building at the State Fairgrounds was the original, preferred, and larger venue considered for the luncheon before it was ultimately changed.
Vice President Johnson pressured Governor Connally. to change the venue to the Dallas Trade Mart. There would be no need to pass through Dealey Plaza had the original site for the speach had not been changed.
The slippery slope of the Jewish people post WWII is a very difficult topic to honestly discuss without instantly going off the rails due to the horrific genocide perpetrated by Hitler’s Nazi Germany. Fast forward to 2026, it’s as if the Palestinian people are suffering genocidal retribution for the gas-chambers that killed millions of Jews eighty plus years ago. Some may say fair trade, I cannot. It was WRONG 80 years ago and it is WRONG in 2025! Completely immoral! When will The Hague act?? I have never seen or heard that MOSSAD had active participants in the events of 11/22/63. The unanswered question is “did they provide financial contributions to those who executed President Kennedy?”
The lone nut narrative is only one of many lies we have told since the end of WWII. Another massive set of lies we have been taught deal with the founding of Israel. We can thank brave Israeli scholars like the author of "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" for revealing the truth to the world.
I believe I understand and appreciate the various arguments here. I believe atrocities have been going on for a lot more than a thousand years and they occurred without the assistance of this generation's villains. Things may have already been played out now but it is unfortunate innocent people have died as they always have. Israel has had the bomb a long time but it has not been used. I am not certain other middle eastern parties would have enough self restraint to refrain from using the bomb.
Just to point out - not one person who writes in the bible was even alive when Jesus was. Most of the bible is fiction, the rest is man-made history years after the fact. Nobody actually knows who did what and why (not unlike the JFK story…lol!). In 2000 years, another fictional man-made religion called Scientology will be as old as Christianity is now, and I wonder if some future Thetans will be starting wars in the Middle East over their Eighth Dynamic…
This is a subject that I don't particularly like as it always gets into the 'your god is better than my god' conversation, genocides, the world order, and mental conspiracy theories - you have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene suggesting that the California wildfires were started by Jewish space lasers, and then commenting on the Jewish people killing JFK, and then the same person (obvious nut job) discrediting climate science with bizarre conspiracy theories about Mayans and how climate scientists are an affront to god. You can see where I am going with this - there is never a Jewish person commenting on JFK's assassination (let's focus on that specifically, no need to get into Gaza), it is always non-Jewish people pushing these theories which are unarguably antisemitic.
There is zero fact behind the Jewish connection (if anyone can prove me wrong on that, please do), so stating that 'someone involved was Jewish or had a soft spot for Israel therefore it must be true' is illogical in the extreme. Saying that Israel killed JFK over a nuclear bomb is equally nonsensical - can nobody see that this is far too 'obvious' a motive (this would have come out long ago if out was true) and so ridiculously easy for 'Christians' to pin on Israel?
As for the CIA and Mossad, we have already established on this forum that the CIA had many different factions, agendas and a spider's web of involvement in various plots and schemes simultaneously. That is the core principle of this whole forum in solving the JFK assassination. Without different plots and subplots, nothing makes sense and LHO is the assassin lone nut, job done. So taking a leap of faith about Angleton and Israel is a huge mistake - he would have been involved in many parallel activities (that is obvious of course), and, if one was helping Israel with a bomb, it does NOT automatically mean that this was the 'workstream' that killed JFK. It is interesting of course, but is nowhere near proof of Israel's involvement.
Huckabee can’t explain Jews’ right to Israeli Land because the Jews have no God given right to the land they usurped. Lord Balfore, Lord Rothschild and the United Nations gave the Jews British Palestine.
The claim that Mileikowsky is Benjamin Netanyahu's original family name is partially correct, but it refers to his father and grandfather rather than Benjamin himself. Here are the details based on historical records: Father's Background: The Israeli Prime Minister’s father, Benzion Netanyahu, was born Benzion Mileikowsky in Warsaw in 1910. Name Change: Upon immigrating to Mandatory Palestine in 1920, Benzion’s father (Nathan Mileikowsky) changed the family name to Netanyahu. Benjamin's Birth: Benjamin Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv in 1949, long after the family name had been changed to Netanyahu. Origin of Mileikowsky: The name is of Ashkenazi Jewish origin, often relating to villages in the former Russian Empire.
It was common practice for early Zionist immigrants to adopt Hebrew surnames to replace their European-diaspora names.
Zion (Hebrew: צִיּוֹן, Tziyon) originates from a pre-Israelite, possibly Jebusite, Canaanite fortress in Jerusalem captured by King David, becoming the "City of David". It stems from the Hebrew root ṣiyyôn (meaning "stronghold," "fortress," or "sunny mountain"), or possibly the Hebrew ṣiyya ("dry land," "desert").
Genesis gave the “Promised Land” to Abraham in Genesis 12:7, between 1650 and 1700 BC. God gives very general boundaries in gen 15: 18. He gives very specific boundaries as they get ready to re-enter Israel (Canaan) Numbers 34 the boundaries include parts of today’s Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Sinai
In attempts by some to blame Zionism for today’s problems is a big leap. Bibi is no different than Trump. It has very little to do with Zionism and everything to do with power and personal nap entitlement
Gaza is not a Jewish issue. It is a political issue
Gaza, Mr. Gaffney, is an issue of Zionist genocide. Netanyahu is a war criminal being protected by Trump...having been MAGA for the past decade I find this a great tragedy.I am a Christian but I do not believe the Old Testiment is anything but mythology. The god portrayed in that book is a homicidal maniac. This is why the real God gave mankind a new covenent centered on love of one another, and the sacrafice of His own Son for mankind's salvation. Jesus is my Lord and Savior.
The ancient Jews rejected Jesus and demanded that Pilate crucify him.
I checked and y much longer comment at the UTube story - Israel & JFK: Allegation of Israeli involvement in JFK's Assassination & What new evidence shows. IS still up at this time 7:27 this AM.
I'm tryng to be very fair here. So the free speech part of my other comment is with drawn.
No Leftist, I doubt if Satan has ever written anything, but he/it has inspired evil on earth since the beginning. The Old Testiment was written by superstitious people who had no concept of what forces of nature were, whether there was an intelligent force behind them or not. Some presumed volcanoes were god's with the will to punish people who would not worship it. The Cannanites were volcano worshipers.
They had the same attitude towards other forces of nature such as hurricanes and earth quakes.
Researcher Nissim Amzallag and others argue that the description of Yahweh—as a "consuming fire" (Deut. 4:24) appearing with smoke on Mount Sinai—reflects a volcano god worshipped by Shasu nomads and Kenite metallurgists.
The Evidence: Proponents point to the intense fire/smoke imagery of the Exodus and the location of early worship in the region of Midian/Edom, where active volcanoes were present. The deity was linked to "vulcan" type metallurgical processes.
Alternative Viewpoint: Most scholars view this "volcanic" imagery as typical Near Eastern storm-god language, borrowed from deities like Baal-Hadad, rather than direct volcano worship. The Canaanite pantheon was predominantly centered on fertility, storms, and nature gods, not specifically volcanoes.
I don’t believe we have a “Notarized” document, written by Abraham, where the “Promised Land” was conveyed by deed to the Jews, okay? AWL, gotta love your question regarding who wrote the Old Testament, and the fact that god AND satan are lower case! I don’t believe we can “hang” the JFK Assassination on Israel or the Jews. Coincidentally, several americans that attended Yale and became a key component of the CIA circa 1947 probably had their own agenda that did not include John F. Kennedy as their “boss,” President of the United States of America.
I think it was Abram who first was promised the the land referred to as Israel.
God first promised the land of Canaan (later Israel) to Abram (later Abraham) in Genesis 12:7, immediately after he arrived in the region. The covenant was later expanded in Genesis 15:18, promising his descendants land stretching from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates River.
This is what the US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee had a hard time with Tucker Carlson about...Eretz Israel a vast territori that would entail almost the entire Middle East.
Anyone ever read up on the Knights Templar? Blind faith in Christianity drove them to kill the infidel, the pope even sponsored their crusades, they were the poster boys for Jesus. Then Eastern arcane rituals began to intrigue them, and their own power and money made them infamous, and finally envy from royalty and Christian religious leaders killed them, using their own religion against them and blasphemy as the accusation to get at their money.
Their story is the history of all that is rotten in Christianity and every other religion for that matter. The good is always conquered by the bad - power, greed and envy win. It’s why every church is massive, still covered in ‘gold’ and has ornate decoration - it’s all for show, for power and mind control, designed to show off, ‘my god is not only better but also richer than yours!’. And to claim that a man-made religion entitles any of us to own any part of our planet is just wrong on all levels. Nothing is ‘god given’ and to fight, kill and plunder in the name of religion is in fact the ultimate sin, if we assume the religious teachings are there to be followed, which is the whole point apparently.
I am not sure any of it has anything to do with a carpenter’s son born 2000 years ago, probably never has. Maybe it should.
Two points, Mr. Whitten: 1) when Russia attacked Ukraine, 6.9 million Ukrainians were allowed to flee, they were taken in as refugees by Poland, by Germany and by many other countries including the USA. Yet after Hamas attacked Israel and Israel fought back, almost no Palestinians were allowed to leave Gaza, except a handful of VIPs. 2) Gaza has exactly 0 (zero) civilian bomb shelters, despite having miles of tunnels for the exclusive use of Hamas. Israel has bomb shelters in or near every building in the country; their goal is that every Israeli civilian should be able to reach a bomb shelter in less than two minutes.
Interestingly, I’m not an atheist in the strictest sense of that word. Just not a follower of religion. My issue is when god and politics are allowed to become intermingled - some religions (apparently) can’t help it (you are born Jewish, you don’t choose, for example), but when self-confessed nutcase Christian nationalists are allowed to hold positions of power, then I have an issue (that’s in the UK as well, this isn’t aimed at the USA or anywhere). It takes us back 2000 years - where God is more important to these people than doing a good, decent job in public office. We have a nasty little wannabe politician in the UK who is clearly racist to the core but dresses it up as being ‘a true British Christian doing the right thing for our nation’. Utter bollocks.
Religious zealots are entitled to their beliefs, but why must everyone be dragged into paying for and being forced into participating in wars based on beliefs they don't share?
"But there is something more. Huckabee’s Christian Zionist theology, and the hyper-militant Jewish nationalism advanced by Bezalel Smotrich, Itamar Ben-Gvir, and Benjamin Netanyahu, fail even on theological terms. Ambassador Huckabee’s remarks highlight two deep and basic theological misunderstandings on the part of the militant Zionists.
First, Huckabee misconstrues the biblical tradition he purports to uphold, turning the Bible’s message of justice and mercy into a license for hatred. Second, he confuses two entirely different concepts, Zionism and Judaism, the former a modern political ideology and the latter an ancient religious faith and way of life.
Genesis records God’s covenant “To your descendants I have given this land—from the river of Egypt to the great River Euphrates”, but that covenant was not a blank check as Huckabee believes. The Bible is explicit that possession of the promised land is conditional. The promised land was entrusted to the Israelites conditional upon their righteousness."~Jeffrey Sachs and Sybil Fares
The Sephardic, and Haredi are Torah believing Jews.
The Ashkenazi are from the north, Poland, Ukraine and Russia. Zionizm is not a religion, it is a political faction based on machiavalian principles of "Might is Right" and hatred of 'The Other". Zionism is crass tribalsim.
The Israeli policy of genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza and the west bank is proof enough of this.
Interesting Information on Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein)
Here is an excerpt from Final Judgment. Again, this is something that simply can't be dismissed lightly if it's true:
"That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major financial backer of the Israeli lobby’s Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since JFK was working to stop Israel’s nuclear arms program—which received smuggled uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman’s Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.
Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom, who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched Ruby’s home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom’s name, address and telephone number on it."
In the blurb I received in my email from you it referred to: "the connections of Angleton, Israel, and JFK’s assassination." I thought, as I think I heard on one your recent videos, that there is no evidence to connect Israel to JFK's murder. If anyone has DIRECT evidence, let them present it here. Motive is one thing, but there were so many people with motive to kill JFK we will be hear for the rest of the decade listing them. But that's not compelling enough when we have been making other kinds of connections to the assassination for 60 years. I feel like this is bait-and-switch,
Israel in 1963 was a small third world country, 8 miles wide at its waist. It didn’t have television until 1966. It had motive to kill JFK? There is a long list of parties who had motive to kill him. To accuse Israel of being involved in the JFK assassination in any way requires a lot more than mere motive and their alleged special relationship with J.J. Angleton.
Oh I forgot, JJA is your Uncle, so he told you. Allen Dulles is your Grandpa. I forget how you are related to Anne Goodpasture, but I know there is a relationship. Now go f*ck off
I'll explain this one last time to anyone interested. The uniqueness of the Israeli Intelligence apparatus' plan is their ability to wedge themselves into a position in which Angleton was compromised. JJA and CIA knew of the diversions of HEW SNM from NUMEC to Israel. NUMEC received aid from by Insiders at USAE. Being counter intelligence both needed to know. Israeli intelligence knew about the criminal activity, knowing Angleton being exposed as ignoring the diversion would have fractured CIA into small pieces. Super spy had been compromised by allowing himself to get positioned in a position were he became vulnerable.
Failure of his obligation to the USA.
I have more than once provided the references I have consulted. Stated and restated my opinion, one which firmly affixes the resulting opinion of mine they are in fact liable for their actions as I have previously stated many times, with references.
It is true have right to your own opinion. You are not however entitled your own facts. Facts obviously not included here Your personal opinion based on your misleading statement in reference to "mere motive", with no explanation. The facts point directly to the their "mere motive" including their opportunity and means.
Points will be deducted!
Now say it with me very Loudly and think, about it, " Bob has explained his opinion several times. However I am unable or willing to understand his point of view." You do see, I got it and I get it.
Correction The Jews did not reject Jesus. They rejected Him as Messiah. Also the Jews, per se, did not kill Jesus. It was a few dozen of the Temple priesthood and their lackeys. The priests in the Temple were not qualified by birth to be priests. They were very corrupt
Finally who did Jesus teach and what did he teach from
Does anyone want to make the case that Angleton wasn't a traitor who should have been given the death penalty for giving a foreign government the bomb without authorization?
Only 21% of the American people support a war with Iran. Ambassador Huckaby's response: so what? The American people have no say in when we decide to start a war except indirectly when they vote for their representatives, most of whom are controlled by Israel.
https://youtu.be/rJ6uJE61jy4?si=ujKYf5HBImtxubrt
Every member has an AIPAC babysitter:
https://youtube.com/shorts/u2reaGhLnYI?si=Fo1dsGcYNSOTb3OO
Well said.
JFK & RFK were working hard to investigate Zionist's and their activities here in the U.S. in their efforts to force them to register as agents of a foreign government. Both were murdered in Public. Israeli Intelligence compromised JJA by way of his relationship with them. When the Kennedy's moved to stymie Zions activities in the USA the Zionists were caught. Had investigations came to fruition JJA helping NUMEC would have been exposed at some point. This reality was driven home when JFK publicly announced he forbade Israel from obtaining nuclear weapons, non-proliferation was his firmly held policy. At the time the deceptions at NUMEC AND USAEC were ongoing. Timing became critcal JFK aand RFK had to GO AWAY.
They did not know I firmly believe anything about NUMEC if they had things would be different today.
JJA was a Zionist as were many others at CIA. Both CIA and the Zionists involved havegotten away with the crimes on the last century to this day, he blood lust of Zionists and Zionist Jews continue o this very moment.
The thing speak loudly for itself. Zionism has spoken loudly from the depths of deception for years. My opinion is those individuals must go away now from America. John and Robert were right in suspecting the individuals they sought for foreign agent registration were engaged in activities which were bad for the USa. Thing have only gotten worse ever since. IMO!
Why is this antisemitic rant acceptable on a site supposedly focused on fact-based investigation? This Robert E Williamson jr. is calling for the removal of the Jewish people and promoting the proven false claims that are known as blood libel. Jefferson, you are completely losing your credibility by stoking these dotards. You are launching antisemitic innuendos and enjoying the chatter. So disappointing.
Also relevant is Colby’s Church Committee explanation for firing Angleton was because Colby didn’t trust Angleton to handle Israel. Angleton’s Church Committee testimony admitted this was true. Colby could have avoided further scrutiny of CIA by quietly deflecting the counterintelligence chief’s treasonous behavior as a professional and structural disagreement. “What if” Colby knew Angleton was part of the JFK plot, Angleton knew Colby knew, and, reading between the lines of Tad Szulc’s Church Committee hearing, Angleton had to lie to deny Szulc’s statement that Szulc’s source told him that Angleton delivered assistance for Israel’s nuclear weapon development in the late 1950s and early 1960s. While Angleton denied it, Szulc’s source said the assistance included fissionable material. Are we to believe Colby didn’t understand the implications of CIA plotting with Mossad at this time?
Angleton Is the one who set up Oswald as the patsy for the assassination of JFK by tasking Ruth Paine with getting close to Marina so she could manipulate Lee through her. Ruth Paine got Lee Oswald the job at the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building three weeks before the assassination.
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IIRC, JFK's route past the TSBD into Dealy Plaza was not announced to the public until the day before the assassination. Oswald had no way of knowing JFK's limo would pass by his building before then. It was a "last minute" change, but of course it could have been planned for weeks or months prior to 11/22/63 in Langley.
The original site that the speach JFK was going to make in Dallas was . However, the Women's Building at the State Fairgrounds was the original, preferred, and larger venue considered for the luncheon before it was ultimately changed.
Vice President Johnson pressured Governor Connally. to change the venue to the Dallas Trade Mart. There would be no need to pass through Dealey Plaza had the original site for the speach had not been changed.
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The slippery slope of the Jewish people post WWII is a very difficult topic to honestly discuss without instantly going off the rails due to the horrific genocide perpetrated by Hitler’s Nazi Germany. Fast forward to 2026, it’s as if the Palestinian people are suffering genocidal retribution for the gas-chambers that killed millions of Jews eighty plus years ago. Some may say fair trade, I cannot. It was WRONG 80 years ago and it is WRONG in 2025! Completely immoral! When will The Hague act?? I have never seen or heard that MOSSAD had active participants in the events of 11/22/63. The unanswered question is “did they provide financial contributions to those who executed President Kennedy?”
The lone nut narrative is only one of many lies we have told since the end of WWII. Another massive set of lies we have been taught deal with the founding of Israel. We can thank brave Israeli scholars like the author of "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" for revealing the truth to the world.
I believe I understand and appreciate the various arguments here. I believe atrocities have been going on for a lot more than a thousand years and they occurred without the assistance of this generation's villains. Things may have already been played out now but it is unfortunate innocent people have died as they always have. Israel has had the bomb a long time but it has not been used. I am not certain other middle eastern parties would have enough self restraint to refrain from using the bomb.
Completely agree with you
Just to point out - not one person who writes in the bible was even alive when Jesus was. Most of the bible is fiction, the rest is man-made history years after the fact. Nobody actually knows who did what and why (not unlike the JFK story…lol!). In 2000 years, another fictional man-made religion called Scientology will be as old as Christianity is now, and I wonder if some future Thetans will be starting wars in the Middle East over their Eighth Dynamic…
Haha! I’m more Jimmy Connors I think..but to be fair, I’m quite good with fish and loaf of bread..
Interesting, coming from someone whose initials are JC?!
This is a subject that I don't particularly like as it always gets into the 'your god is better than my god' conversation, genocides, the world order, and mental conspiracy theories - you have people like Marjorie Taylor Greene suggesting that the California wildfires were started by Jewish space lasers, and then commenting on the Jewish people killing JFK, and then the same person (obvious nut job) discrediting climate science with bizarre conspiracy theories about Mayans and how climate scientists are an affront to god. You can see where I am going with this - there is never a Jewish person commenting on JFK's assassination (let's focus on that specifically, no need to get into Gaza), it is always non-Jewish people pushing these theories which are unarguably antisemitic.
There is zero fact behind the Jewish connection (if anyone can prove me wrong on that, please do), so stating that 'someone involved was Jewish or had a soft spot for Israel therefore it must be true' is illogical in the extreme. Saying that Israel killed JFK over a nuclear bomb is equally nonsensical - can nobody see that this is far too 'obvious' a motive (this would have come out long ago if out was true) and so ridiculously easy for 'Christians' to pin on Israel?
As for the CIA and Mossad, we have already established on this forum that the CIA had many different factions, agendas and a spider's web of involvement in various plots and schemes simultaneously. That is the core principle of this whole forum in solving the JFK assassination. Without different plots and subplots, nothing makes sense and LHO is the assassin lone nut, job done. So taking a leap of faith about Angleton and Israel is a huge mistake - he would have been involved in many parallel activities (that is obvious of course), and, if one was helping Israel with a bomb, it does NOT automatically mean that this was the 'workstream' that killed JFK. It is interesting of course, but is nowhere near proof of Israel's involvement.
Huckabee can’t explain Jews’ right to Israeli Land because the Jews have no God given right to the land they usurped. Lord Balfore, Lord Rothschild and the United Nations gave the Jews British Palestine.
The claim that Mileikowsky is Benjamin Netanyahu's original family name is partially correct, but it refers to his father and grandfather rather than Benjamin himself. Here are the details based on historical records: Father's Background: The Israeli Prime Minister’s father, Benzion Netanyahu, was born Benzion Mileikowsky in Warsaw in 1910. Name Change: Upon immigrating to Mandatory Palestine in 1920, Benzion’s father (Nathan Mileikowsky) changed the family name to Netanyahu. Benjamin's Birth: Benjamin Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv in 1949, long after the family name had been changed to Netanyahu. Origin of Mileikowsky: The name is of Ashkenazi Jewish origin, often relating to villages in the former Russian Empire.
It was common practice for early Zionist immigrants to adopt Hebrew surnames to replace their European-diaspora names.
Zion (Hebrew: צִיּוֹן, Tziyon) originates from a pre-Israelite, possibly Jebusite, Canaanite fortress in Jerusalem captured by King David, becoming the "City of David". It stems from the Hebrew root ṣiyyôn (meaning "stronghold," "fortress," or "sunny mountain"), or possibly the Hebrew ṣiyya ("dry land," "desert").
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Genesis gave the “Promised Land” to Abraham in Genesis 12:7, between 1650 and 1700 BC. God gives very general boundaries in gen 15: 18. He gives very specific boundaries as they get ready to re-enter Israel (Canaan) Numbers 34 the boundaries include parts of today’s Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Sinai
In attempts by some to blame Zionism for today’s problems is a big leap. Bibi is no different than Trump. It has very little to do with Zionism and everything to do with power and personal nap entitlement
Gaza is not a Jewish issue. It is a political issue
Gaza, Mr. Gaffney, is an issue of Zionist genocide. Netanyahu is a war criminal being protected by Trump...having been MAGA for the past decade I find this a great tragedy.I am a Christian but I do not believe the Old Testiment is anything but mythology. The god portrayed in that book is a homicidal maniac. This is why the real God gave mankind a new covenent centered on love of one another, and the sacrafice of His own Son for mankind's salvation. Jesus is my Lord and Savior.
The ancient Jews rejected Jesus and demanded that Pilate crucify him.
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If there is a god and a devil, could it be that the "Old Testament" was more likely written by Satan?
I will give everyone, a devil of a time trying to get y message through.
Apparently the logarithm's don't like my choice of terms resulting n my comment not going through.
Such is the state of free speech in this day in time. Now I must check th Utube site where I left my original much longer message.
Resist , unite and overcome evil.
I checked and y much longer comment at the UTube story - Israel & JFK: Allegation of Israeli involvement in JFK's Assassination & What new evidence shows. IS still up at this time 7:27 this AM.
I'm tryng to be very fair here. So the free speech part of my other comment is with drawn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZRA3svUIg
No Leftist, I doubt if Satan has ever written anything, but he/it has inspired evil on earth since the beginning. The Old Testiment was written by superstitious people who had no concept of what forces of nature were, whether there was an intelligent force behind them or not. Some presumed volcanoes were god's with the will to punish people who would not worship it. The Cannanites were volcano worshipers.
They had the same attitude towards other forces of nature such as hurricanes and earth quakes.
Researcher Nissim Amzallag and others argue that the description of Yahweh—as a "consuming fire" (Deut. 4:24) appearing with smoke on Mount Sinai—reflects a volcano god worshipped by Shasu nomads and Kenite metallurgists.
The Evidence: Proponents point to the intense fire/smoke imagery of the Exodus and the location of early worship in the region of Midian/Edom, where active volcanoes were present. The deity was linked to "vulcan" type metallurgical processes.
Alternative Viewpoint: Most scholars view this "volcanic" imagery as typical Near Eastern storm-god language, borrowed from deities like Baal-Hadad, rather than direct volcano worship. The Canaanite pantheon was predominantly centered on fertility, storms, and nature gods, not specifically volcanoes.
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I don’t believe we have a “Notarized” document, written by Abraham, where the “Promised Land” was conveyed by deed to the Jews, okay? AWL, gotta love your question regarding who wrote the Old Testament, and the fact that god AND satan are lower case! I don’t believe we can “hang” the JFK Assassination on Israel or the Jews. Coincidentally, several americans that attended Yale and became a key component of the CIA circa 1947 probably had their own agenda that did not include John F. Kennedy as their “boss,” President of the United States of America.
I think it was Abram who first was promised the the land referred to as Israel.
God first promised the land of Canaan (later Israel) to Abram (later Abraham) in Genesis 12:7, immediately after he arrived in the region. The covenant was later expanded in Genesis 15:18, promising his descendants land stretching from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates River.
This is what the US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee had a hard time with Tucker Carlson about...Eretz Israel a vast territori that would entail almost the entire Middle East.
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I'm not sure who most scholars are.
Some questions before you totally eliminate the OT
Who were Jesus' parents and what faith did they practice?
Who were John the Baptist's parents and what faith did they practice?
When Jesus taught in the Temple at 12 what was He teaching from?
What faith were the disciples?
Who were the crowds Jesus taught to?
Again what was Jesus teaching from?
Do you practice the 10 commandments?
Q. "Who were Jesus' parents and what faith did they practice?"
A. Jesus' mother was Mary who was married to Jesus' step-father Joseph. they were Jewish as was Jesus
Q, Who were John the Baptist's parents and what faith did they practice?
A.John the Baptist’s parents were the priest Zechariah and his wife Elizabeth, a descendant of Aaron, They practiced Judaism
Q. When Jesus taught in the Temple at 12 what was He teaching from?
A. Jesus was teaching from the word of His father, the Creator of the Universe.
Q. What faith were the disciples?
A. They were Judean. it is not clear how knowledgeable they were about Judaism, they learned their faith from the master himself, Jesus Christ
Q. Who were the crowds Jesus taught to?
A. In the main they were Judeans, some travelers from abroad, some Romans who traveled with the Legions.
Q. Again what was Jesus teaching from?
A. The inspired word of our Father who art in Heaven
Q. Do you practice the 10 commandments?
A. Some of them...as best as I can for I am only human.
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Anyone ever read up on the Knights Templar? Blind faith in Christianity drove them to kill the infidel, the pope even sponsored their crusades, they were the poster boys for Jesus. Then Eastern arcane rituals began to intrigue them, and their own power and money made them infamous, and finally envy from royalty and Christian religious leaders killed them, using their own religion against them and blasphemy as the accusation to get at their money.
Their story is the history of all that is rotten in Christianity and every other religion for that matter. The good is always conquered by the bad - power, greed and envy win. It’s why every church is massive, still covered in ‘gold’ and has ornate decoration - it’s all for show, for power and mind control, designed to show off, ‘my god is not only better but also richer than yours!’. And to claim that a man-made religion entitles any of us to own any part of our planet is just wrong on all levels. Nothing is ‘god given’ and to fight, kill and plunder in the name of religion is in fact the ultimate sin, if we assume the religious teachings are there to be followed, which is the whole point apparently.
I am not sure any of it has anything to do with a carpenter’s son born 2000 years ago, probably never has. Maybe it should.
Spoken like a real atheist.
Religious wars are a thing of the distant past as far as Christianity is concerned.
Of course the fanatical Islamists are still as crazy as shit house rats...
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Two points, Mr. Whitten: 1) when Russia attacked Ukraine, 6.9 million Ukrainians were allowed to flee, they were taken in as refugees by Poland, by Germany and by many other countries including the USA. Yet after Hamas attacked Israel and Israel fought back, almost no Palestinians were allowed to leave Gaza, except a handful of VIPs. 2) Gaza has exactly 0 (zero) civilian bomb shelters, despite having miles of tunnels for the exclusive use of Hamas. Israel has bomb shelters in or near every building in the country; their goal is that every Israeli civilian should be able to reach a bomb shelter in less than two minutes.
Interestingly, I’m not an atheist in the strictest sense of that word. Just not a follower of religion. My issue is when god and politics are allowed to become intermingled - some religions (apparently) can’t help it (you are born Jewish, you don’t choose, for example), but when self-confessed nutcase Christian nationalists are allowed to hold positions of power, then I have an issue (that’s in the UK as well, this isn’t aimed at the USA or anywhere). It takes us back 2000 years - where God is more important to these people than doing a good, decent job in public office. We have a nasty little wannabe politician in the UK who is clearly racist to the core but dresses it up as being ‘a true British Christian doing the right thing for our nation’. Utter bollocks.
Good Jamie, becaus atheism is absurd as the existance of God can be neither proven nor disproven, thus agnosticism is a more rational positiion.
I am a Christian by personal revelation...meeting the Creator in person so to speak. Such an experience is indescribable.
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Religious zealots are entitled to their beliefs, but why must everyone be dragged into paying for and being forced into participating in wars based on beliefs they don't share?
The days of religious wars are long past.
Today in the post-modern world wars are fougnt for wealth and power.
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Zionism seems like a religion. Isn't it based on the religious belief that God gave a large swath of land to them?
Modern Zionism is purely a political movement having littel to do with Judaism.
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They are killing children just for ocean front real estate?
Man, that's cold.
People who are fearful make rules
Exactly. I will note that Bibi is not a religious extremist though he is certainly supported by some
Most Ashkenazi Zionists are athiests.
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What is your statement about ashkenazi Zionists being Atheist based on
Also why does it appear that you are focused on Ashkenazi Jews
What about Sephardic, Haredi, etc
"But there is something more. Huckabee’s Christian Zionist theology, and the hyper-militant Jewish nationalism advanced by Bezalel Smotrich, Itamar Ben-Gvir, and Benjamin Netanyahu, fail even on theological terms. Ambassador Huckabee’s remarks highlight two deep and basic theological misunderstandings on the part of the militant Zionists.
First, Huckabee misconstrues the biblical tradition he purports to uphold, turning the Bible’s message of justice and mercy into a license for hatred. Second, he confuses two entirely different concepts, Zionism and Judaism, the former a modern political ideology and the latter an ancient religious faith and way of life.
Genesis records God’s covenant “To your descendants I have given this land—from the river of Egypt to the great River Euphrates”, but that covenant was not a blank check as Huckabee believes. The Bible is explicit that possession of the promised land is conditional. The promised land was entrusted to the Israelites conditional upon their righteousness."~Jeffrey Sachs and Sybil Fares
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The Sephardic, and Haredi are Torah believing Jews.
The Ashkenazi are from the north, Poland, Ukraine and Russia. Zionizm is not a religion, it is a political faction based on machiavalian principles of "Might is Right" and hatred of 'The Other". Zionism is crass tribalsim.
The Israeli policy of genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza and the west bank is proof enough of this.
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Everything from the JFK assassination to the Epstein scandal is related.
https://substack.com/@raniakhalek/note/c-210242524?r=5cs0n
Israeli connection again. Israel operating behind a lot.
Interesting Information on Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein)
Here is an excerpt from Final Judgment. Again, this is something that simply can't be dismissed lightly if it's true:
"That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major financial backer of the Israeli lobby’s Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since JFK was working to stop Israel’s nuclear arms program—which received smuggled uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman’s Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.
Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was—you guessed it—Sam Bloom, who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched Ruby’s home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom’s name, address and telephone number on it."
-Michael Collins Piper, Final Judgment
In the blurb I received in my email from you it referred to: "the connections of Angleton, Israel, and JFK’s assassination." I thought, as I think I heard on one your recent videos, that there is no evidence to connect Israel to JFK's murder. If anyone has DIRECT evidence, let them present it here. Motive is one thing, but there were so many people with motive to kill JFK we will be hear for the rest of the decade listing them. But that's not compelling enough when we have been making other kinds of connections to the assassination for 60 years. I feel like this is bait-and-switch,
Israel in 1963 was a small third world country, 8 miles wide at its waist. It didn’t have television until 1966. It had motive to kill JFK? There is a long list of parties who had motive to kill him. To accuse Israel of being involved in the JFK assassination in any way requires a lot more than mere motive and their alleged special relationship with J.J. Angleton.
Oh I forgot, JJA is your Uncle, so he told you. Allen Dulles is your Grandpa. I forget how you are related to Anne Goodpasture, but I know there is a relationship. Now go f*ck off
I'll explain this one last time to anyone interested. The uniqueness of the Israeli Intelligence apparatus' plan is their ability to wedge themselves into a position in which Angleton was compromised. JJA and CIA knew of the diversions of HEW SNM from NUMEC to Israel. NUMEC received aid from by Insiders at USAE. Being counter intelligence both needed to know. Israeli intelligence knew about the criminal activity, knowing Angleton being exposed as ignoring the diversion would have fractured CIA into small pieces. Super spy had been compromised by allowing himself to get positioned in a position were he became vulnerable.
Failure of his obligation to the USA.
I have more than once provided the references I have consulted. Stated and restated my opinion, one which firmly affixes the resulting opinion of mine they are in fact liable for their actions as I have previously stated many times, with references.
It is true have right to your own opinion. You are not however entitled your own facts. Facts obviously not included here Your personal opinion based on your misleading statement in reference to "mere motive", with no explanation. The facts point directly to the their "mere motive" including their opportunity and means.
Points will be deducted!
Now say it with me very Loudly and think, about it, " Bob has explained his opinion several times. However I am unable or willing to understand his point of view." You do see, I got it and I get it.
Correction The Jews did not reject Jesus. They rejected Him as Messiah. Also the Jews, per se, did not kill Jesus. It was a few dozen of the Temple priesthood and their lackeys. The priests in the Temple were not qualified by birth to be priests. They were very corrupt
Finally who did Jesus teach and what did he teach from