I feared that they would not release these key documents or other files related to David Morales and others out of the Miami JM WAVE unit. While it may not be a "smoking gun" it will provied key pieces of the puzzle that will prove that Oswald was CIA and that Morales and Phiilips were running the operation that killed JFK. If Trump and Radcliffe don't step in, it shows that the Deep State CIA still has the power.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in CIA headquarters right now. Are there factions for and against disclosure? How hard is Radcliffe pushing? How much power does he really have? Is permanent defacement of sections of the documents on the table? How much of the delay pertains to prepping a PR strategy? Who is really calling the shots, the CIA or the military? The whole thing feels rather combustible. I'm glad to see JFK Facts continue to hold their feet to the fire.
The refusal to comply with the president's directive on key matters key documents. Is in itself indicative of nefarious conduct. Maybe to the point of going to jail first. Let's see who gets thrown under the bus. That authority must be brought to bare. There are times when our government needs reminded who works for who. Yet it never resonates
Great point. It reminds me of Kennedy telling de Gaulle that he wasn’t in control of his own government, referring to the CIA.
Frankly it is incredible to me that the CIA’s actions continue to this day. Is Trump in control of his own government? This is a historic watershed moment in our history as a nation. Will the president scatter the CIA to the wind? Is Luna in over her head on this? So many questions remain…it is honestly an exciting moment.
Do you know which individual(s) specifically in the CIA is making the decision to withhold the files? Knowing who the CIA decision-maker is could help peal-back the onion even further.
“Minority witness Alexis Coe . . .” Does this represent the state of American politics in 2025?? DISGUSTING! NOTHING CHERRY PICKING about these hearings. Perhaps an inkling of truth about the events of 11/22/63, something Americans have been denied for 61 1/2 years! As a US Army Veteran, 1967-1970, I propose tearing down the entire “framework of lies” that obviously date back to at least 1959, with the establishment of Operation Mongoose under President Eisenhower, Vice-President Richard M. Nixon (“I am not a crook!”) at the helm of
Operation 40! Nearly eighty percent of my life has been lived under the cloud of “THE BIG LIE!” That Lee Harvey Oswald was the sole assassin in the death of our President John Fitzgerald Kennedy! I’m pissed!
First off thank you for serving our country. Glad you got home safe.
Coe was an alarmingly bad witness. She was shamelessly promoting her new book.
But the fact that she denigrated the living witnesses is reprehensible. These men were fascinating, old enough to be Coe’s grandfather. Frankly she a disgrace.
SJ, THANK YOU! Fate intervened and I served with the 538 Engineering Battalion in Thailand, building a highway through the jungle, South of Korat. My Viet Nam peers suffered a fate that no American deserved!
One thing that strikes me a strange is that over 40 doctors provided facts that at a minimum Kennedy was hit with 3 bullets, 1 missed, and 1 hit Connally. They said that the throat wound was an entry wound, there was a back wound and the head wound showed an entry wound at the high forehead. If these facts are true, why do many especially in Congress not confirm tha the facts show there had to be multilple shooters? Everything else flows from these facts.
The hearings today were revolutionary compared to what we've seen in the past. It turns out Jeff has been on the trail of Joannides for over 30 years and the CIA is still obstructing justice. This comes after the Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY in 1992 to release all the files. Have they ever voted unanimously for anything besides releasing the JFK files?
For me personally, Dan Hardaway was a new witness and a revelation to the story out of Mexico. He confirmed what I have suspected for many years. The operation in New Orleans and Mexico were all part of a strategy concocted by Angleton and carried out by Joannides. In spy terms, it's called "sheep dipping'. They needed to make him out to be a left wing kook. It fit his whole background in the Marines and Russia. This was planned months, if not years before the actual murder.
As far as I can tell, the Democrats are not interested in this topic. I think all the questioners/attendees were Republican except for Garcia. That is pathetic. It says a lot about the parties today.
I think they were trying to capture Bolden’s testimony for history, not for the audience today.
I also think the CIA slow walking and possible destruction of evidence is bringing the whole story to a head.
Well written response. Some of the bigger picture files were released in Moscow about eight years ago. Of course, I am not going there to look at them. I reached out to journalists that have written about them, but there really is no point in trying to talk to a Russian “journalist”. My attempts were futile.
There are simply so many classified files from even decades before the JFK assassination. It didn’t happen in a bubble.
They will never release all the files. It will never happen.
I can tell you that my great uncle said about all of the files. "I don't know where they are, and I don't want to know where they are."
People keep claiming it is corruption, but good men see what is there and they simply come out saying, you don't want to see it. I loved my great uncle, and he said everything he did was for the United States. That was the most important thing to him. All these people that work in the CIA and the rest of the government, most of them love this country as well. You can't just keep vilifying them.
The people involved with the assassination were involved in a multitude of operations at the official direction of the United States.
One of the theories was that World War III would break out if they didn't blame it on Oswald. That was the basis behind the research Wilcox did on Dussaq.
Take one small example, Wilcox researched Bazata who said he was hired to assassinated general Patton. Today, perhaps no one would care, but how would that have gone over back in 1963?
Another example, with things like operation paperclip, we brought Nazi's back to the United States. To some degree, they accepted that they were the scientists and the like. They rationalized it that they weren't the bad ones, but instead they actually brought back other Nazi's, such as the actual architect of the holocaust. How would that look in 1963 to acknowledge that we harbored the actual architect of the holocaust?
Or how about how the United States was not the first to test the atomic bomb? One story my great uncle told me was he went to Inner Mongolia after the end of the war. Given his timing of events, that would be August or September 1945. He went to see where the Japanese used an atomic bomb against the advance of Mongolian Soviet troops. There is a headline with the Atlanta Constitution stating the Japanese tested an atomic bomb. There is an academic paper on the matter, Tsetusuo Wakabayashi, Revealed. Then you can actually google the Hailar Crater. There is a 300 meet wide crater there and they can't determine why it is there because they cannot find any evidence of a meteorite there. There is also more coming out about this, but right now the files remain classified.
These are generally mundane examples of what will be in those files. What would the world look like if we shared these files in 1963? I am suggesting some of the other files are even far worse. Once it was covered up, they continued with these sorts of operations. We were at war, albeit a cold war. I guess it was simply better than nuking everyone.
Yes, my great uncle was mad as hell at some of what he was asked to do. Some of the things he had to do or else he figured they would kill him. He was surprised he made it to 99.
And by "good men," you mean, who, exactly? And why - in ostensibly a democratic republic - should these people be allowed to flout congressional investigations and executive orders by the elected representatives who are accountable to Americans?
I mean people that fought for this country against Fascism and Communism.
They are not flouting congressional investigations and executive orders. The law says that the files can remain classified if there is identifiable damage or threats to national security. There are and that is why they remain classified.
There is no executive order to declassify beyond what I stated above. Perhaps Trump meant to have the agencies push the limits a bit more, but it wasn't to expose things that may be a threat to national security. That has not changed.
You are so focused on JFK, but where is the uproar on declassifying so many other records that go back to World War II? It is all the same. It is all one big story and the JFK assassination just happens to be where it exposed itself to the public.
If you think Hoover, McCarthy, and other Red Scare witchhunt crazies were fighting fascism and communism that is your business, but history has rendered judgment. And you seem to have forgotten about all the Nazis some of the OSS cheerfully welcomed here.
More to the point I suppose is you have chosen to comment on a blog called "JFK Facts," what exactly were you expecting in the blog discussions?
I am talking about people that worked to stop nuclear war and to stop Hitler and Stalin and the Japanese for that matter.
The JFK assassination has already been solved. The people with a voice simply refuse to acknowledge the exceptional research that has already been done. Ask those people why they don’t acknowledge the research of people that were thrown into this.
Take Mary Haverstick and her research on Mary Cobb. It’s phenomenal, but it seems to be cast aside like a boring topic.
Take Robert Wilcox and his research on Douglas Bazata and Rene Dussaq. Like Haverstick, he wasn’t setting out to solve the JFK case. But his research is completely and totally ignored. Why is that?
Or Gary Shaws research on Roscoe White. He puts it plainly that it is impossible for those materials to have been fabricated. His story and Ricky Whote are treated like rejects. Why?
You can even look and see that the White and Dussaq stories are identical. You don’t even need to read the books and you can see that in book reviews. Two diaries from completely different sources telling the same story.
Why is all of this credible research being ignored and instead you are being given a hope that these files should and will be released. Why would someone with no knowledge of these files propose that they certainly wouldn’t be a threat to national security.
For me, I ended up here because of my great uncles deathbed confession. He was head of the AT&T Long Lines Plant Department. As such he was head of continuity of governance as it was contracted to AT&T. He was in charge of the men that ran the presidents telephone when the president traveled. He worked that day and told me everything that happened before he died. He had access to the highest levels of intelligence. He met with LBJ after the assassination. My mother even remembers that he met with LBJ in the White House after the assassination. He told me in his own way that the stories of Roscoe White, Rene Dussaq and Jerrie Cobb were true.
Jefferson, why not also target the CIA docs on George de Mohrenschildt, whom many consider to be Oswald's "babysitter" or handler. When Gaeton Fonzi told George's daughter he wanted to discuss the case with her father, the latter died the same day, allegedly from suicide but more likely from a hit job, one of dozens chronicled over the years following the assassination.
WELL, Dr. Curtis’ diagram indicating two shots from the TSBD, one from the railroad overpass and one from the picket fence area, plus the third shot from the TSBD striking the curb causing a superficial facial wound to James Tague certainly flips the Warren Commission report on it’s head! NOTHING NEW HERE!?! Perhaps, time to start over. Oh, was conspiracy even mentioned? Thanks Jefferson and Staff! This wouldn’t have happened without your four decade pursuit!
Judith Baker is an eye witness to much that happened in the spring and summer of 1963. She has been discounted but her book dove tails into the new findings. Joanides having a house in New Orleans show that it was a center point of the JM WAVE and Cuban operations by the CIA. Each revelation from the files leads to the conclusion that David Morales, David Phillips, Bill Harvey, and Jim Angleton were the masterminds that carried out Allen Dulles and LBJ's wishes. The Diaz Garcia revelation matches my account of my CIA friend's account which is documented in "Down the Rathole" on Amazon Books.
I feared that they would not release these key documents or other files related to David Morales and others out of the Miami JM WAVE unit. While it may not be a "smoking gun" it will provied key pieces of the puzzle that will prove that Oswald was CIA and that Morales and Phiilips were running the operation that killed JFK. If Trump and Radcliffe don't step in, it shows that the Deep State CIA still has the power.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in CIA headquarters right now. Are there factions for and against disclosure? How hard is Radcliffe pushing? How much power does he really have? Is permanent defacement of sections of the documents on the table? How much of the delay pertains to prepping a PR strategy? Who is really calling the shots, the CIA or the military? The whole thing feels rather combustible. I'm glad to see JFK Facts continue to hold their feet to the fire.
I genuinely hope that Rep. Luna’s personal staff is subscribed to this Substack.
The refusal to comply with the president's directive on key matters key documents. Is in itself indicative of nefarious conduct. Maybe to the point of going to jail first. Let's see who gets thrown under the bus. That authority must be brought to bare. There are times when our government needs reminded who works for who. Yet it never resonates
Great point. It reminds me of Kennedy telling de Gaulle that he wasn’t in control of his own government, referring to the CIA.
Frankly it is incredible to me that the CIA’s actions continue to this day. Is Trump in control of his own government? This is a historic watershed moment in our history as a nation. Will the president scatter the CIA to the wind? Is Luna in over her head on this? So many questions remain…it is honestly an exciting moment.
Do you know which individual(s) specifically in the CIA is making the decision to withhold the files? Knowing who the CIA decision-maker is could help peal-back the onion even further.
That would be great to know because he isn't following the orders from his commander-in-chief.
“Minority witness Alexis Coe . . .” Does this represent the state of American politics in 2025?? DISGUSTING! NOTHING CHERRY PICKING about these hearings. Perhaps an inkling of truth about the events of 11/22/63, something Americans have been denied for 61 1/2 years! As a US Army Veteran, 1967-1970, I propose tearing down the entire “framework of lies” that obviously date back to at least 1959, with the establishment of Operation Mongoose under President Eisenhower, Vice-President Richard M. Nixon (“I am not a crook!”) at the helm of
Operation 40! Nearly eighty percent of my life has been lived under the cloud of “THE BIG LIE!” That Lee Harvey Oswald was the sole assassin in the death of our President John Fitzgerald Kennedy! I’m pissed!
First off thank you for serving our country. Glad you got home safe.
Coe was an alarmingly bad witness. She was shamelessly promoting her new book.
But the fact that she denigrated the living witnesses is reprehensible. These men were fascinating, old enough to be Coe’s grandfather. Frankly she a disgrace.
SJ, THANK YOU! Fate intervened and I served with the 538 Engineering Battalion in Thailand, building a highway through the jungle, South of Korat. My Viet Nam peers suffered a fate that no American deserved!
Glad you got home safe too.
Funny, my next door neighbor here in NJ was an engineer with you. He landed in Cam Ran Bay in 67 I think. I pry him for stories all the time.
He helped build the runways at Tan Son Nuht (?) airbase, pontoon bridges all kinds of stuff. Love to hear his stories.
We are going to find out if the US lives by the rule of law or not.
Guaranteed not
One thing that strikes me a strange is that over 40 doctors provided facts that at a minimum Kennedy was hit with 3 bullets, 1 missed, and 1 hit Connally. They said that the throat wound was an entry wound, there was a back wound and the head wound showed an entry wound at the high forehead. If these facts are true, why do many especially in Congress not confirm tha the facts show there had to be multilple shooters? Everything else flows from these facts.
GD, it must be TOO OBVIOUS! IMHO, this entirely flips the scrips from Oswald alone to undeniable conspiracy!
The hearings today were revolutionary compared to what we've seen in the past. It turns out Jeff has been on the trail of Joannides for over 30 years and the CIA is still obstructing justice. This comes after the Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY in 1992 to release all the files. Have they ever voted unanimously for anything besides releasing the JFK files?
For me personally, Dan Hardaway was a new witness and a revelation to the story out of Mexico. He confirmed what I have suspected for many years. The operation in New Orleans and Mexico were all part of a strategy concocted by Angleton and carried out by Joannides. In spy terms, it's called "sheep dipping'. They needed to make him out to be a left wing kook. It fit his whole background in the Marines and Russia. This was planned months, if not years before the actual murder.
As far as I can tell, the Democrats are not interested in this topic. I think all the questioners/attendees were Republican except for Garcia. That is pathetic. It says a lot about the parties today.
I think they were trying to capture Bolden’s testimony for history, not for the audience today.
I also think the CIA slow walking and possible destruction of evidence is bringing the whole story to a head.
Well written response. Some of the bigger picture files were released in Moscow about eight years ago. Of course, I am not going there to look at them. I reached out to journalists that have written about them, but there really is no point in trying to talk to a Russian “journalist”. My attempts were futile.
There are simply so many classified files from even decades before the JFK assassination. It didn’t happen in a bubble.
Why? Why are they not releasing these documents? I hope they provide a compelling reason(s) for this.
A sound explanation, or lack thereof may reveal more than the CIA would like the public to know.
They will never release all the files. It will never happen.
I can tell you that my great uncle said about all of the files. "I don't know where they are, and I don't want to know where they are."
People keep claiming it is corruption, but good men see what is there and they simply come out saying, you don't want to see it. I loved my great uncle, and he said everything he did was for the United States. That was the most important thing to him. All these people that work in the CIA and the rest of the government, most of them love this country as well. You can't just keep vilifying them.
You and your "good men" may not want to see the files, but we do, and we're entitled to see them.
Are you making a case for the assassination now?
No.
The people involved with the assassination were involved in a multitude of operations at the official direction of the United States.
One of the theories was that World War III would break out if they didn't blame it on Oswald. That was the basis behind the research Wilcox did on Dussaq.
Take one small example, Wilcox researched Bazata who said he was hired to assassinated general Patton. Today, perhaps no one would care, but how would that have gone over back in 1963?
Another example, with things like operation paperclip, we brought Nazi's back to the United States. To some degree, they accepted that they were the scientists and the like. They rationalized it that they weren't the bad ones, but instead they actually brought back other Nazi's, such as the actual architect of the holocaust. How would that look in 1963 to acknowledge that we harbored the actual architect of the holocaust?
Or how about how the United States was not the first to test the atomic bomb? One story my great uncle told me was he went to Inner Mongolia after the end of the war. Given his timing of events, that would be August or September 1945. He went to see where the Japanese used an atomic bomb against the advance of Mongolian Soviet troops. There is a headline with the Atlanta Constitution stating the Japanese tested an atomic bomb. There is an academic paper on the matter, Tsetusuo Wakabayashi, Revealed. Then you can actually google the Hailar Crater. There is a 300 meet wide crater there and they can't determine why it is there because they cannot find any evidence of a meteorite there. There is also more coming out about this, but right now the files remain classified.
These are generally mundane examples of what will be in those files. What would the world look like if we shared these files in 1963? I am suggesting some of the other files are even far worse. Once it was covered up, they continued with these sorts of operations. We were at war, albeit a cold war. I guess it was simply better than nuking everyone.
Yes, my great uncle was mad as hell at some of what he was asked to do. Some of the things he had to do or else he figured they would kill him. He was surprised he made it to 99.
And by "good men," you mean, who, exactly? And why - in ostensibly a democratic republic - should these people be allowed to flout congressional investigations and executive orders by the elected representatives who are accountable to Americans?
I mean people that fought for this country against Fascism and Communism.
They are not flouting congressional investigations and executive orders. The law says that the files can remain classified if there is identifiable damage or threats to national security. There are and that is why they remain classified.
There is no executive order to declassify beyond what I stated above. Perhaps Trump meant to have the agencies push the limits a bit more, but it wasn't to expose things that may be a threat to national security. That has not changed.
You are so focused on JFK, but where is the uproar on declassifying so many other records that go back to World War II? It is all the same. It is all one big story and the JFK assassination just happens to be where it exposed itself to the public.
If you think Hoover, McCarthy, and other Red Scare witchhunt crazies were fighting fascism and communism that is your business, but history has rendered judgment. And you seem to have forgotten about all the Nazis some of the OSS cheerfully welcomed here.
More to the point I suppose is you have chosen to comment on a blog called "JFK Facts," what exactly were you expecting in the blog discussions?
Truth. I am expecting truth.
I am not talking about Hoover and McCarthy.
I am talking about people that worked to stop nuclear war and to stop Hitler and Stalin and the Japanese for that matter.
The JFK assassination has already been solved. The people with a voice simply refuse to acknowledge the exceptional research that has already been done. Ask those people why they don’t acknowledge the research of people that were thrown into this.
Take Mary Haverstick and her research on Mary Cobb. It’s phenomenal, but it seems to be cast aside like a boring topic.
Take Robert Wilcox and his research on Douglas Bazata and Rene Dussaq. Like Haverstick, he wasn’t setting out to solve the JFK case. But his research is completely and totally ignored. Why is that?
Or Gary Shaws research on Roscoe White. He puts it plainly that it is impossible for those materials to have been fabricated. His story and Ricky Whote are treated like rejects. Why?
You can even look and see that the White and Dussaq stories are identical. You don’t even need to read the books and you can see that in book reviews. Two diaries from completely different sources telling the same story.
Why is all of this credible research being ignored and instead you are being given a hope that these files should and will be released. Why would someone with no knowledge of these files propose that they certainly wouldn’t be a threat to national security.
For me, I ended up here because of my great uncles deathbed confession. He was head of the AT&T Long Lines Plant Department. As such he was head of continuity of governance as it was contracted to AT&T. He was in charge of the men that ran the presidents telephone when the president traveled. He worked that day and told me everything that happened before he died. He had access to the highest levels of intelligence. He met with LBJ after the assassination. My mother even remembers that he met with LBJ in the White House after the assassination. He told me in his own way that the stories of Roscoe White, Rene Dussaq and Jerrie Cobb were true.
Jefferson, why not also target the CIA docs on George de Mohrenschildt, whom many consider to be Oswald's "babysitter" or handler. When Gaeton Fonzi told George's daughter he wanted to discuss the case with her father, the latter died the same day, allegedly from suicide but more likely from a hit job, one of dozens chronicled over the years following the assassination.
Luna’s hearing is on YouTube right now people
WELL, Dr. Curtis’ diagram indicating two shots from the TSBD, one from the railroad overpass and one from the picket fence area, plus the third shot from the TSBD striking the curb causing a superficial facial wound to James Tague certainly flips the Warren Commission report on it’s head! NOTHING NEW HERE!?! Perhaps, time to start over. Oh, was conspiracy even mentioned? Thanks Jefferson and Staff! This wouldn’t have happened without your four decade pursuit!
Judith Baker is an eye witness to much that happened in the spring and summer of 1963. She has been discounted but her book dove tails into the new findings. Joanides having a house in New Orleans show that it was a center point of the JM WAVE and Cuban operations by the CIA. Each revelation from the files leads to the conclusion that David Morales, David Phillips, Bill Harvey, and Jim Angleton were the masterminds that carried out Allen Dulles and LBJ's wishes. The Diaz Garcia revelation matches my account of my CIA friend's account which is documented in "Down the Rathole" on Amazon Books.