What The Doctors Saw is unavailable in Canada on Paramount Plus. Shearer doesnt want to comment on Landis' recent revelations. He was at the Crime Scene! Landis' comments are a Gamechanger in my mind. She mentions she did not want to go there in her documentary. Shearer is discovering all of this about the Doctors for the first time. I believe she says she wasnt alive in 1963. So many of us remember Dr. Perry telling his Truth at Parkland. Someone should tell her we've heard this all before. I just dont think Shearer makes the best spokesperson for the documentary. She sounds like she doesnt understand the basic facts of the Kennedy Assasination, or the fear people had after the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. And with good reason! Even RFK and his Brother Teddy Kennedy publicly concurred with the Warren Commission. Was there anything new in the documentary?
Landis isn't credible. He's changed his story. His first version, told to an Akron newspaper on the 25th anniversary, was that he found a "fragment" and handed it to "somebody." I don't know if he's lying, unintentionally misrememberung, or if it's the result of aging -- perhaps the latter. But, in light of this, his story is no "gamechanger."
Many people would disagree with you. Landis is wanting to tell his whole truth. He doesnt have too many more years to do that. Everything he has ever said his part of his truth. He was at the scene of the Crime. But the Warren Commission didnt call him to testify. Surely you dont believe the Magic Bullet Theory. It has been thoroughly discredited. And Landis recent revelations explain things a little further. The bullet fragments lead to questions of other bullets. Landis chooses not to go there. Is there anything new in What The Doctors Said? Shearer wasnt convincing on why people should see it.
I don't know if you consider it new or not, but someone giving a professional treatment and sharing some first-hand experiences with Parkland staff is most certainly valuable in the absence of the mainstream media paying attention outside of the obligatory anniversary-of-the-assassination coverage.
Every last one of those Parkland hospital staff has something of interest to share IMO, just like anyone who was in close proximity to JFK's limo on Nov 22.
But it all starts with a willingness to have an open mind about what we've all been fed for all these years. Disinformation is an art and a science, and Dulles and his fellow spooks were grandmaster level practitioners.
We have a long way to go. How is that the wikipedia page still gets away with using the Warren Commission conclusions as its baseline when the AARB overruled their finding and found there was most likely a conspiracy? That finding is the standing precedent AFAIC. You can drive a Mack truck through the holes in the Warren Report.
Thanks for elaborating on the importance of What The Doctors Said documentary. It was hard to tell from the podcast. It will be nice to hear truth on this subject. I really want to see it but it is not available on Paramount #1 in Canada.
It would be interesting to know how people are finding Rob Reiner's Who Killed JFK. I've listened to seven podcasts. It's getting interesting. This week's podcast reports Richard Case Nagell was asked to kill Oswald.
I dont quite understand who then would be the Patsy. Darker things are coming through also. It was interesting but not surprising to find out Nagell was also found dead just before he was to testify at the AARB.
I watched the What the Doctors Said documentary twice as I was on a trial 7 day free subscription and figured I'd make the most of it.
I've also been listening to the Reiner podcast, I have tried to listen to them the day they are released and then again for the next one drops. What I'm seeing is a shared understanding that the evidence - once you weed out the deep fakes - speaks for itself. That 61 reasons blog/article that Richard Turnbull shared (thank you Richard) was also extremely well done.
A burning question I have about all this is whether the 6th floor museum is on the level or not. Why aren't they leading the charge to have the documents released? This is what any cultural institution worth its salt should be doing if serious scientists are curating its collections and exhibitions.
Sixth Floor Museum is the official story all the way. I understand the opposite corner to Oswald's perch - you cant look out anymore. It however is not surrounded by glass.
I am truly disgusted with so much of what they do...let me count the ways. Firstly, they push the lone gunman theory due to their deep CIA connections (see link below). Then they have hundreds of Oral Histories (many of which I do enjoy), yet very few of them have been uploaded to Youtube. Don't they have some college interns that could do that for them for min. wage or free? But, hey, don't worry, you can still see them. Just make a trip to Dallas and watch them....if you make an appt first. Same for their films they are buying up so that people can't have access to them. For example they supposedly have a 1st or 2nd gen copy of the all important Darnell film...but can't be bothered to put it on youtube. There's a reason for that. Once again, feel free to make an appointment and come to Dallas and watch it. But researchers are not allowed to rewind, pause, take photos or make copies of it etc... So If you're a serious researcher wanting to view it meticulously, good luck. Oh, and did I mention that since covid they haven't even been taking appointments? And now that covid is (basically) over, they are STILL not taking appointments due to "covid and staffing shortages due to covid". I think the 6FM is where information and films go to die. (Sort of like the AARO for UFO/UAP info). A few years ago the AP digitally remastered the Muchmore film and uploaded it to YT - a great service to researchers and the public. Just this last year I noticed it had disappeared! My bookmark for it was dead and I searched high and low on YT and it was gone! As were many other poor copies of it I had bookmarked. Just the other day I found out why. Surprise surprise, the 6FM bought the copyright to it so now it's in their control. Wanna watch it? No problem. Make an appt and show up in Dallas...after covid is over and they can somehow afford "staffing" to let you have access to it. They are not there to help us. They are their to continue the coverup.
The 6FM was set up by a former executive director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Charles Briggs, which didn't surface until his obituary in 2015! So it's no wonder they tow the Posner line. See this article (scroll down) by Vince Palamara on Briggs and the 6FM (it's now on the WBM). I love this quote about him by Jim DiEugenio:
"Is it not amazing how a guy can live in the shadows his whole life, and then suddenly, due to an obituary, we find out who he is.
"Briggs helped set up the sixth floor for CIA, he apparently oversaw CIA interests in declassification for ARRB, and now we know he went through Angleton’s files after he was removed by Colby."
"This guy was a player in the JFK case and no one knew it."
And the quote under that by Chris Newton about how Briggs was #2 in power under Angleton!
"I inadvertently stumbled on this connection, here in this forum while investigating other issues, and Gary Mack and I had a “private” conversation about Charles’ status. Charles Briggs had more knowledge of more secrets in the CIA than probably anyone other than Angleton (and it appears he was the keeper of Angleton’s files as well, moving about 15% of the 400 yards of files into the main CIA database and overseeing the destruction of the rest)."
Both can be true - Shearer is covering old ground (albeit at least she's covering it at all - the feckless mass media is embarrassingly silent about the legal violations of the JFK Records Act by both Trump (of course!) and Biden (had a right to expect more from him, sadly, no change - AND Landis is confused and credible at different points - his testimony UNDER OATH would have been tremendously important at Oswald's trial, so guess what...one more reason why "lone nut who was definitely not a mobster with involvement in smuggling weapons to Cuba and shot Oswald to spare Jackie Kennedy the pain of a trial" Jack Ruby (one time runner for the Capone outfit in Chicago) shot him, or executed him, on live television - likely coerced with threats of death and death to his entire family and the little dogs he loved if he didn't bump off the patsy.
Vince Palamara casts a questioning eye over the advance publicity in Vanity Fair and the NY Times over the revelations about an extra bullet in the JFK case by Secret Service agent Paul Landis, and is also disappointed by his book.
Author of Survivor’s Guilt: The Secret Service & The Failure to Protect President Kennedy, JFK: From Parkland to Bethesda, The Not-So-Secret Service, Whos’ Who in the Secret Service and Honest Answers About the Murder of President Kennedy: A New Look at the JFK Assassination
I wouldnt call it disappointing to hear what Landis says about CE399. And the bullet fragments which were from another bullet. What happened to Secret Service protocol and protection of evidence on Nov22/63?
Agree! Plus as he described he had/has PTSD from what he saw, so didn't want to talk about the assassination, and didn't want to read about it or watch anything about it for years.
^^^^^ The right thing to do is to (1) Read Vince Palamara's article carefully and (2) Refute any crucial, relevant mistake in facts or argumentation in it, if you can or (3) Come back on here and just confess, "Mea culpa, I made a mistake!"
Landis was obviously torn about what to say over the years. Yes it did vary what he said.
He acted out of fear. He didnt want to end up dead on the side of a road somewhere. He doesnt fear that now.
Landis knew whst he was coming up against
to tell his truth back in 63.
I reread V. Palamera's piece again this evening. We're not falling for those old lies.
Remember R. Kellerman said the limousine was hit with a flurry of bullets.
We know now 4 shots at the very least were fired.
I suggest respectfully to you to sign up for Rob Reiner's Who killed Kennedy Podcast on Spotify. 10 parts. He says he will name the shooters and from which spot they were firing.
Rob Reiner has recently announced that two additional podcasts are scheduled, for a total of twelve. FINALLY, excellent investigating and reporting to support what Jeff has so bravely been doing for decades!
I have listened to 7, and it seems there is still a long way to go. It seems the whole thing is headed in the direction of Cuba. Kill JFK, and then the US would have to go into Cuba. Is that what you are hearing? LBJ was a much greater President than we thought. More coverup was required. however.
For several reason, I have always believed Castro's Cuba was an integral theme for the removal of JFK. JFK was not going to commit to an escalated war with Cuba which would pull in the USSR leading to a global conflict involving nuclear weapons. During the Cuban Missle Crisis, JFK and RFK negotiated with Krushav and the USSR rather than through the Pentagon and State Departments which infuriated the upper echelons of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I was not aware until this year that JFK had initiated plans to normalize relations with Cuba, again through a back channel. This further infuriated the anti-Castro Cubans as this meant Castro would stay in power. Castro staying in power also meant the gambling and prostitution industries primarily run by Trafficante's mob would not be returning to Cuba, which was a huge financial impact to his territory. I don't see LBJ in a positive light during his Presidential and Vice-Presidential Administrations.
What The Doctors Saw is unavailable in Canada on Paramount Plus. Shearer doesnt want to comment on Landis' recent revelations. He was at the Crime Scene! Landis' comments are a Gamechanger in my mind. She mentions she did not want to go there in her documentary. Shearer is discovering all of this about the Doctors for the first time. I believe she says she wasnt alive in 1963. So many of us remember Dr. Perry telling his Truth at Parkland. Someone should tell her we've heard this all before. I just dont think Shearer makes the best spokesperson for the documentary. She sounds like she doesnt understand the basic facts of the Kennedy Assasination, or the fear people had after the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. And with good reason! Even RFK and his Brother Teddy Kennedy publicly concurred with the Warren Commission. Was there anything new in the documentary?
Landis isn't credible. He's changed his story. His first version, told to an Akron newspaper on the 25th anniversary, was that he found a "fragment" and handed it to "somebody." I don't know if he's lying, unintentionally misrememberung, or if it's the result of aging -- perhaps the latter. But, in light of this, his story is no "gamechanger."
Many people would disagree with you. Landis is wanting to tell his whole truth. He doesnt have too many more years to do that. Everything he has ever said his part of his truth. He was at the scene of the Crime. But the Warren Commission didnt call him to testify. Surely you dont believe the Magic Bullet Theory. It has been thoroughly discredited. And Landis recent revelations explain things a little further. The bullet fragments lead to questions of other bullets. Landis chooses not to go there. Is there anything new in What The Doctors Said? Shearer wasnt convincing on why people should see it.
I don't know if you consider it new or not, but someone giving a professional treatment and sharing some first-hand experiences with Parkland staff is most certainly valuable in the absence of the mainstream media paying attention outside of the obligatory anniversary-of-the-assassination coverage.
Every last one of those Parkland hospital staff has something of interest to share IMO, just like anyone who was in close proximity to JFK's limo on Nov 22.
But it all starts with a willingness to have an open mind about what we've all been fed for all these years. Disinformation is an art and a science, and Dulles and his fellow spooks were grandmaster level practitioners.
We have a long way to go. How is that the wikipedia page still gets away with using the Warren Commission conclusions as its baseline when the AARB overruled their finding and found there was most likely a conspiracy? That finding is the standing precedent AFAIC. You can drive a Mack truck through the holes in the Warren Report.
Thanks for elaborating on the importance of What The Doctors Said documentary. It was hard to tell from the podcast. It will be nice to hear truth on this subject. I really want to see it but it is not available on Paramount #1 in Canada.
It would be interesting to know how people are finding Rob Reiner's Who Killed JFK. I've listened to seven podcasts. It's getting interesting. This week's podcast reports Richard Case Nagell was asked to kill Oswald.
I dont quite understand who then would be the Patsy. Darker things are coming through also. It was interesting but not surprising to find out Nagell was also found dead just before he was to testify at the AARB.
I watched the What the Doctors Said documentary twice as I was on a trial 7 day free subscription and figured I'd make the most of it.
I've also been listening to the Reiner podcast, I have tried to listen to them the day they are released and then again for the next one drops. What I'm seeing is a shared understanding that the evidence - once you weed out the deep fakes - speaks for itself. That 61 reasons blog/article that Richard Turnbull shared (thank you Richard) was also extremely well done.
A burning question I have about all this is whether the 6th floor museum is on the level or not. Why aren't they leading the charge to have the documents released? This is what any cultural institution worth its salt should be doing if serious scientists are curating its collections and exhibitions.
Sixth Floor Museum is the official story all the way. I understand the opposite corner to Oswald's perch - you cant look out anymore. It however is not surrounded by glass.
I am truly disgusted with so much of what they do...let me count the ways. Firstly, they push the lone gunman theory due to their deep CIA connections (see link below). Then they have hundreds of Oral Histories (many of which I do enjoy), yet very few of them have been uploaded to Youtube. Don't they have some college interns that could do that for them for min. wage or free? But, hey, don't worry, you can still see them. Just make a trip to Dallas and watch them....if you make an appt first. Same for their films they are buying up so that people can't have access to them. For example they supposedly have a 1st or 2nd gen copy of the all important Darnell film...but can't be bothered to put it on youtube. There's a reason for that. Once again, feel free to make an appointment and come to Dallas and watch it. But researchers are not allowed to rewind, pause, take photos or make copies of it etc... So If you're a serious researcher wanting to view it meticulously, good luck. Oh, and did I mention that since covid they haven't even been taking appointments? And now that covid is (basically) over, they are STILL not taking appointments due to "covid and staffing shortages due to covid". I think the 6FM is where information and films go to die. (Sort of like the AARO for UFO/UAP info). A few years ago the AP digitally remastered the Muchmore film and uploaded it to YT - a great service to researchers and the public. Just this last year I noticed it had disappeared! My bookmark for it was dead and I searched high and low on YT and it was gone! As were many other poor copies of it I had bookmarked. Just the other day I found out why. Surprise surprise, the 6FM bought the copyright to it so now it's in their control. Wanna watch it? No problem. Make an appt and show up in Dallas...after covid is over and they can somehow afford "staffing" to let you have access to it. They are not there to help us. They are their to continue the coverup.
The 6FM was set up by a former executive director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Charles Briggs, which didn't surface until his obituary in 2015! So it's no wonder they tow the Posner line. See this article (scroll down) by Vince Palamara on Briggs and the 6FM (it's now on the WBM). I love this quote about him by Jim DiEugenio:
"Is it not amazing how a guy can live in the shadows his whole life, and then suddenly, due to an obituary, we find out who he is.
"Briggs helped set up the sixth floor for CIA, he apparently oversaw CIA interests in declassification for ARRB, and now we know he went through Angleton’s files after he was removed by Colby."
"This guy was a player in the JFK case and no one knew it."
And the quote under that by Chris Newton about how Briggs was #2 in power under Angleton!
"I inadvertently stumbled on this connection, here in this forum while investigating other issues, and Gary Mack and I had a “private” conversation about Charles’ status. Charles Briggs had more knowledge of more secrets in the CIA than probably anyone other than Angleton (and it appears he was the keeper of Angleton’s files as well, moving about 15% of the 400 yards of files into the main CIA database and overseeing the destruction of the rest)."
https://web.archive.org/web/20210226031343/https://vincepalamara.com/2020/01/23/charles-briggs-cia-texas-school-book-deposity-sixth-floor-museum-11-22-63/
Both can be true - Shearer is covering old ground (albeit at least she's covering it at all - the feckless mass media is embarrassingly silent about the legal violations of the JFK Records Act by both Trump (of course!) and Biden (had a right to expect more from him, sadly, no change - AND Landis is confused and credible at different points - his testimony UNDER OATH would have been tremendously important at Oswald's trial, so guess what...one more reason why "lone nut who was definitely not a mobster with involvement in smuggling weapons to Cuba and shot Oswald to spare Jackie Kennedy the pain of a trial" Jack Ruby (one time runner for the Capone outfit in Chicago) shot him, or executed him, on live television - likely coerced with threats of death and death to his entire family and the little dogs he loved if he didn't bump off the patsy.
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023-ahead-of-the-60th-anniversary-of-the-kennedy-assassination-but-how-credible-is-he
Vince Palamara casts a questioning eye over the advance publicity in Vanity Fair and the NY Times over the revelations about an extra bullet in the JFK case by Secret Service agent Paul Landis, and is also disappointed by his book.
Author of Survivor’s Guilt: The Secret Service & The Failure to Protect President Kennedy, JFK: From Parkland to Bethesda, The Not-So-Secret Service, Whos’ Who in the Secret Service and Honest Answers About the Murder of President Kennedy: A New Look at the JFK Assassination
I wouldnt call it disappointing to hear what Landis says about CE399. And the bullet fragments which were from another bullet. What happened to Secret Service protocol and protection of evidence on Nov22/63?
Agree! Plus as he described he had/has PTSD from what he saw, so didn't want to talk about the assassination, and didn't want to read about it or watch anything about it for years.
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023-ahead-of-the-60th-anniversary-of-the-kennedy-assassination-but-how-credible-is-he
^^^^^ The right thing to do is to (1) Read Vince Palamara's article carefully and (2) Refute any crucial, relevant mistake in facts or argumentation in it, if you can or (3) Come back on here and just confess, "Mea culpa, I made a mistake!"
Landis was obviously torn about what to say over the years. Yes it did vary what he said.
He acted out of fear. He didnt want to end up dead on the side of a road somewhere. He doesnt fear that now.
Landis knew whst he was coming up against
to tell his truth back in 63.
I reread V. Palamera's piece again this evening. We're not falling for those old lies.
Remember R. Kellerman said the limousine was hit with a flurry of bullets.
We know now 4 shots at the very least were fired.
I suggest respectfully to you to sign up for Rob Reiner's Who killed Kennedy Podcast on Spotify. 10 parts. He says he will name the shooters and from which spot they were firing.
Rob Reiner has recently announced that two additional podcasts are scheduled, for a total of twelve. FINALLY, excellent investigating and reporting to support what Jeff has so bravely been doing for decades!
I have listened to 7, and it seems there is still a long way to go. It seems the whole thing is headed in the direction of Cuba. Kill JFK, and then the US would have to go into Cuba. Is that what you are hearing? LBJ was a much greater President than we thought. More coverup was required. however.
Fear and PTSD.
For several reason, I have always believed Castro's Cuba was an integral theme for the removal of JFK. JFK was not going to commit to an escalated war with Cuba which would pull in the USSR leading to a global conflict involving nuclear weapons. During the Cuban Missle Crisis, JFK and RFK negotiated with Krushav and the USSR rather than through the Pentagon and State Departments which infuriated the upper echelons of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I was not aware until this year that JFK had initiated plans to normalize relations with Cuba, again through a back channel. This further infuriated the anti-Castro Cubans as this meant Castro would stay in power. Castro staying in power also meant the gambling and prostitution industries primarily run by Trafficante's mob would not be returning to Cuba, which was a huge financial impact to his territory. I don't see LBJ in a positive light during his Presidential and Vice-Presidential Administrations.