I’m skeptical. A non researcher gets access to notes. We learn nothing new, no insight from the notes and I’m sorry but the guy seems to know nothing about Ruby and assasination. Most of us researchers had to be kind of shocked by the lack of expertise. Jeff was very patient and kind as he should be, but this was a terrible showing for Mr Fingeroth. It made me not want to buy his book, and a bit skeptical as if this was a put up whitewash…
Hat’s off to Jefferson for doing his best with a very trying and disappointed author. The guy can’t even properly phone in! And don’t you love his reason for not being a subscriber- “I can’t bother with the paperwork.” Nor with facts, clearly! Spider-Man Comics have more credibility IMO
And Hoover admitted Ruby was their informant for a while around the time he went to Cuba. Makes me wonder if he was also a police informant. the Dallas attorney general said Ruby would say he represented the Jewish Press to gain access. All the cops knew Ruby and he gave them special treatment at his club. So no problem getting into the basement to kill Oswald.
Did Ruby go the Cuba about Trafficante? The night of the assassination to know that Oswald was leafletting for Fair Play for Cuba and not Free Cuba shows he knew that story before it was told by the CIA Cuban Revolutionary Students Group and isn't there some FBI knowledge that he was doing a little Fair play for Cuba stuff before he went to New Orleans? Didn't he also think that Earl Warren was in danger in Dallas because of the right-wing Impeach Earl Warren Billboards?
I agree that there were some interesting nuggets in Jeff’s interview of Fingeroth whose memory lapses might be explained by nervousness, blood sugar levels, fatigue, age, etc. or simply failure to explore all avenues of possibility. (When contrasted to Jeff’s encyclopedic recall of facts many JFK researchers will seem a little ditzy.) The discussion of the Texas Campisi brothers brought to mind an extraordinary NY Times article about the New Jersey Campisi brothers which lays out various tactics used by Mafia hitmen.
The second paragraph below could describe Jack Ruby.
The Campisis — two brothers and their sons and nephews—are associated with the Mafia family of the late Vito Genovese, according to law‐enforcement officials, although only one, Anthony Campiti, 53 years old, of Newark, is believed to be a Mafia family member.
An Essex County law enforcement official said the Campisis were used as enforcers and “hit men” by the Mafia but generally were considered “too whacked out” and unreliable to be given full Mafia family membership.
Jeff’s interview also reminded me of my first father-in-law who in the 1960s was a Southside of Chicago Jewish bookmaker whose partner Leon Marcus had loaned $100,000 to Sam Giancana. When Sam repaid Marcus, one of his errand boys, Moretti, while delivering the repayment decided to keep it for himself and killed Marcus. Moretti was killed after Sam learned what he had done.
My father-in-law who said “we own all the aldermen in Chicago” and like Ruby hated RFK because he was going after organized crime and couldn’t be bought. He even wanted to know if my father (an environmental lobbyist for the National Association of Manufacturers) could find the right person to intervene on his behalf with the IRS. He eventually went to trial. My FOIA request to the FBI for more than 1100 pages was reduced by me to 500 so that I might receive them before I’m senile. Decades ago I spoke to William Roemer of the Chicago FBI who assured me that my father-in-law was not violent person like some of those mentioned above but he did shoot himself after shingles became too painful. Decades earlier William Douglas Pawley had ended his shingles pain the same way preventing Gaeton Fonzi from having him as one of the first witnesses before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Rather spotty interview. Very much like a stew, a few tasty morsels in a lot of gravy. However, the author does confirm that Jack Ruby had a vicious Jekyll and Hyde personality, as well as confirming his ties, however tenuous, to Organized Crime.
What I found distressing was that many tantalizing leads regarding Ruby's ties to the Mob were not thoroughly explored.
He says that "In 1974, Menachem Begin awarded him the Prime Minister's Medal at an Israel Dinner of State in recognition of his distinguished service to Israel and the Jewish people.", but I can't find this fact anywhere in the web (only some Israel media mention this after Silverman's death, with the same words). The memorial doesn't say explicitily what kind of services he did, but he also asserts that he "served ... the Nuclear Arms Control Council". Perhaps the service was in this misterious and unknown Nuclear Arms Control Council...
I didn't learn anything in this interview.
Jefferson is very patient.
I’m skeptical. A non researcher gets access to notes. We learn nothing new, no insight from the notes and I’m sorry but the guy seems to know nothing about Ruby and assasination. Most of us researchers had to be kind of shocked by the lack of expertise. Jeff was very patient and kind as he should be, but this was a terrible showing for Mr Fingeroth. It made me not want to buy his book, and a bit skeptical as if this was a put up whitewash…
Between the audio issues and the somewhat scattered and evasive answers I found this a tough listen, but some interesting nuggets in here for sure.
Hat’s off to Jefferson for doing his best with a very trying and disappointed author. The guy can’t even properly phone in! And don’t you love his reason for not being a subscriber- “I can’t bother with the paperwork.” Nor with facts, clearly! Spider-Man Comics have more credibility IMO
Fingeroth should be changed to FingerGRIFT...hate that Jeff had to waste his time with this grifter...
And Hoover admitted Ruby was their informant for a while around the time he went to Cuba. Makes me wonder if he was also a police informant. the Dallas attorney general said Ruby would say he represented the Jewish Press to gain access. All the cops knew Ruby and he gave them special treatment at his club. So no problem getting into the basement to kill Oswald.
Did Ruby go the Cuba about Trafficante? The night of the assassination to know that Oswald was leafletting for Fair Play for Cuba and not Free Cuba shows he knew that story before it was told by the CIA Cuban Revolutionary Students Group and isn't there some FBI knowledge that he was doing a little Fair play for Cuba stuff before he went to New Orleans? Didn't he also think that Earl Warren was in danger in Dallas because of the right-wing Impeach Earl Warren Billboards?
I agree that there were some interesting nuggets in Jeff’s interview of Fingeroth whose memory lapses might be explained by nervousness, blood sugar levels, fatigue, age, etc. or simply failure to explore all avenues of possibility. (When contrasted to Jeff’s encyclopedic recall of facts many JFK researchers will seem a little ditzy.) The discussion of the Texas Campisi brothers brought to mind an extraordinary NY Times article about the New Jersey Campisi brothers which lays out various tactics used by Mafia hitmen.
https://www.nytimes.com/1973/11/30/archives/10-in-gang-in-jersey-indicted-in-5-killings-10-indicted-in-5.html?smid=url-share
The second paragraph below could describe Jack Ruby.
The Campisis — two brothers and their sons and nephews—are associated with the Mafia family of the late Vito Genovese, according to law‐enforcement officials, although only one, Anthony Campiti, 53 years old, of Newark, is believed to be a Mafia family member.
An Essex County law enforcement official said the Campisis were used as enforcers and “hit men” by the Mafia but generally were considered “too whacked out” and unreliable to be given full Mafia family membership.
Jeff’s interview also reminded me of my first father-in-law who in the 1960s was a Southside of Chicago Jewish bookmaker whose partner Leon Marcus had loaned $100,000 to Sam Giancana. When Sam repaid Marcus, one of his errand boys, Moretti, while delivering the repayment decided to keep it for himself and killed Marcus. Moretti was killed after Sam learned what he had done.
My father-in-law who said “we own all the aldermen in Chicago” and like Ruby hated RFK because he was going after organized crime and couldn’t be bought. He even wanted to know if my father (an environmental lobbyist for the National Association of Manufacturers) could find the right person to intervene on his behalf with the IRS. He eventually went to trial. My FOIA request to the FBI for more than 1100 pages was reduced by me to 500 so that I might receive them before I’m senile. Decades ago I spoke to William Roemer of the Chicago FBI who assured me that my father-in-law was not violent person like some of those mentioned above but he did shoot himself after shingles became too painful. Decades earlier William Douglas Pawley had ended his shingles pain the same way preventing Gaeton Fonzi from having him as one of the first witnesses before the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
Rather spotty interview. Very much like a stew, a few tasty morsels in a lot of gravy. However, the author does confirm that Jack Ruby had a vicious Jekyll and Hyde personality, as well as confirming his ties, however tenuous, to Organized Crime.
What I found distressing was that many tantalizing leads regarding Ruby's ties to the Mob were not thoroughly explored.
Hillel Silverman, the rabbi of Jack Ruby, died recently in in 2023. Here the memorial written by himself
https://www.rabbinicalassembly.org/sites/default/files/memorial-book-2023.pdf
He says that "In 1974, Menachem Begin awarded him the Prime Minister's Medal at an Israel Dinner of State in recognition of his distinguished service to Israel and the Jewish people.", but I can't find this fact anywhere in the web (only some Israel media mention this after Silverman's death, with the same words). The memorial doesn't say explicitily what kind of services he did, but he also asserts that he "served ... the Nuclear Arms Control Council". Perhaps the service was in this misterious and unknown Nuclear Arms Control Council...
Jewish humor, I guess.
all the best
Ramon
Jeff says "thank God', m I'm about to swallow my tongue, I gotta go 07:10 in. I may be back to finish.
With all due respect I really understand what Jefferson goes through.
I have other priorities that do not allow me this luxury, besides it's not all about me!
Much respect to Jeff,one thing is for sure you are a very fair person.
Tanks Jeff!
Author seemed that he had little new to offer on Oswald
Jefferson Morley is a virtual, if not actual, KGB* disinformation agent.
*Today's SVR and FSB