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Anti-war leftist's avatar

Why does the JFK assassination matter now? Because government of, by, and for the people was stolen from us by authoritarian, unelected oligarchs devoted to world domination, endless war, and stripping the rest of us of our constitutional rights.

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robert e williamson jr's avatar

They, even lawyers, say "Possession is 9/10ths of the law. I am here to tell you if we desire to have control of our government we will have to take it back. This is a promise and a warning. Idle threats mean nothing.

This is my life long belief.

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Paul Q's avatar

REW: Yes all along I have viewed Trump’s presidential aspirations as an ‘attempted coup’. That is the reality of the situation. The current rulers of the United States must be overthrown or we will live under their thumb for eternity. Trump may succeed but as yet he has not.

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Paul Q's avatar

AWL: Perfectly stated

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TemplarScribe's avatar

Just a note: the link to last week's "Left, Right and JFK" podcast has a truncated url link, making it inoperative: The correct link should be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaXVsYakQe0

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BH's avatar

Can you please resume posting to the podcast feed? The last podcast episode posted was from March 4th. Thanks!

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Eng Prof's avatar

Can you tell us when the last two podcasts will be up on the site? Thanks.

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Benjamin Cole's avatar

The point of JFK 2025 is to dog-whistle "Mossad, Angleton, and LHO, nuclear bombs," and that Israeli and AIPAC lobbyists are trying to suppress JFK Records Act releases.

Tucker Carlson is very interested.

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

Is there any evidence that Israeli and AIPAC lobbyists are trying to suppress JFK Records Act releases? If so, that would tell us a lot, wouldn't it? Surely, they aren't that stupid.

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robert e williamson jr's avatar

OMG! You said the quiet part out loud. Great question. But yes they could be that confident, as opposed to stupid. So far it seems to me to have worked. JJA was a Zionist and so was Biden.

See Benny walk and talk in front of Congress that is confidence. Congress need to remove it's head from it's arse!

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

Biden is Catholic

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robert e williamson jr's avatar

He also has admitted to being a Zionist. Catholic or not.

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Paul Q's avatar

Well there’s Ben Shapiro…

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Paul Q's avatar

This is one of the funniest bits I’ve seen in a long long time. It’s up there with the Bari Weiss bit.

https://rumble.com/v6r9v8u-ben-shapiro-implicates-israel-in-jfk-assassination.html

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

Somehow I missed this video. WOW! Thanks for posting the link.

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

Whether true or not, very few people are aware of those associations.

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Benjamin Cole's avatar

Angleton and the CIA had a much larger association in the 1960s with the Catholic Church and the Vatican than they had with Israel.

No one drops hints the Vatican has JFK assassinated, even after the Kennedy Administration had the Catholic Diems assassinated in South Vietnam, in a regime change op.

The Catholic Church was the largest landowner in SV.

Sounds nutty, right?

No more nutty than Morley's shameful dog-whistling about Mossad and the JFK.

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Paul Q's avatar

There is no dog whistling here. If the CIA is for once and for all implicated in the assassination (and they are) then it necessarily follows that others associated with the CIA are also suspect. This includes first and foremost the FBI. In an only slightly lesser way the suspects now include the Secret Service, the Mob, and the Dallas Police. Mossad is also implicated now in a way they may not have been previously but the evidence is circumstantial at best. Even more remotely implicated IMHO is LBJ.

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

IMO, this Catholic Church theory is deflection by some interested party. Unfortunately, the evidence is weak to nonexistent and the theory is thus simply not credible.

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Paul Q's avatar

It’s silly and transparent.

It’s more plausible to implicate MI6. As you pointed out no one is letting the Church off the hook.🪝 They are protectors of child rapists. Israel has 10,000 more motives than MI6, the Vatican, or even LHO.

In Angleton’s Frank Church Committee testimony he recounts how he arranged for an Israeli intelligence operative to assist Bill Harvey in collecting intel on Castro’s Cuba. So we have the Three Musketeers, the Three Amigos, right there.

PS: I read Jeff’s Angleton book cover-to-cover twice and made careful notes the second time through. I list it as one of the very best.

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

Did you read Morley’s book on Angleton? Then you would know what I’m talking about. Reading comprehension doesn’t always mean understanding the words before you, it also means understanding the words omitted. ….switch the scenario. If the Morley book was written but instead of dog whistling the Vatican they did the same with Israel there would be red flags. Unless you knew about angleton’s connection to the Vatican you would have no idea. Morley glosses over the fact angleton’s senior was OSS and stationed in Italy. Morley goes in depth on angketon’s connections in England, Israel and elsewhere. You find out a lot about Kim Philby. But the Vatican is just that. No names and no further exploration

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

I read morleys book 📖 on angleton and question his purposeful omissions of angleton’s connection to the Vatican. Realized Morley is a narrative keeper

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Benjamin Cole's avatar

I don't believe Mossad or the Vatican played a role in the JFKA. But you raise a good point...why does Morley dog-whistle Mossad? Money from Tehran?

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

Is there a statue of Angleton in the Vatican like there is in Israel? Did Angleton help the Vatican get the bomb?

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

What interest did the Vatican have in assasinating Lincoln?

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

I don't know. Please enlighten me.

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

The Vatican didn't have, or wasn't trying to acquire, the atomic bomb.

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Benjamin Cole's avatar

The Vatican was also the largest landowner in South Vietnam, and the Diem brothers were devout Catholics.

Short story: The Kennedy Administration backed a coup that waxed the Diems (November 1963), and even JFK was advised the coup could have lethal consequences for the Diems.

Three weeks later, JFK is assassinated. Blowback?

The term "Catholic Intelligence Agency" has been used as a nickname for the CIA, particularly due to the fact that several CIA directors and high-ranking officials have been Catholic including founders, and the CIA had tight relations with the Vatican through the 1970s.

John McCone was a Knight of Malta, juts one small example, and was director of the CIA when the JFKA happened.

Actually, I would like to appear on Morley's podcast to explain the "Catholics did it" angle. Not as I really believe it--but to show how a compelling narrative can be created from "facts."

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

Right. Exactly my point. I love how everyone says you can’t criticize Israel, while they go on major podcasts to do so…..but I never hear anyone talk about the Vatican ever.

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Benjamin Cole's avatar

I was appalled when Jeff Morley began dog-whistling "Mossad and Jews" on the JFKA (Tucker Carlson show). The Tehran Tongue in action?

There isn't the slightest evidence of Mossad perping the JFKA.

We might guess that rogue CIA elements were involved, although even that is not proven.

Thanks for your comments.

I do not regard the modern-day Vatican as evil.

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

Read operation gladio and figure out what the Vatican does. They are a sick evil organization

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

What? An organization which covers up the sexual abuse of little kids and hides the perpetrators from law enforcement is sick and evil?

Regardless, how would the Vatican benefit from JFK's death? JFK was the Catholic Church's best advertisement. What motive would the Vatican have for killing him?

On the other hand, Israel had plenty of motive. JFK opposed Israel getting the bomb and insisted on AIPAC registering as a foreign agent.

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Tired old grey mare's avatar

I suggest you read operation gladio, the Vatican is much worse than you suspect.

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robert e williamson jr's avatar

'Hot Damn', are we having fun yet, great point.

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Anti-war leftist's avatar

What's shameful about it? Israel couldn't commit murder?

https://youtu.be/bqrDB2Q8hYc?si=J0EW-m-alCKas732

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robert e williamson jr's avatar

Correct, very few Indeed!

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