Because the JFK assassination was the defining moment of my life, I am going to also tell Biden that I will not vote for him (or for president at all if i dont like his opponent) until he orders the remaining records to be releasded in full. Others may not share the same view. This is a matter of conscious. But if share my sentiments, let him know.
RFK Jr. and Trump automatically discredit any even remotely controversial issue they support, and this remains controversial - many American citizens are far more concerned about the loss of freedoms dictated by the self-appointed right wing cabal on the Supreme Court, for example, than the release of these "ancient documents."
It's up to us to help them realize it is important, but neither the neo-fascist coup-inciting arch-criminal Trump, facing a host of criminal indictments on top of those already filed, nor the champion of endangering thousands of young children with deadly diseases by convincing their parents not to vaccinate them, RFK Jr., have a scintilla of moral standing to help in any cause whatsoever.
Nada. No politician is going to spend any political capital on this issue. The upside for doing so is small and the downside is very frightening to them. Jefferson Morley said with Biden's executive order the CIA has a decisive win. Our best chance was in the aftermath of Oliver Stone's popular movie. Even then the CIA was able to control the damage. They can kill people. That kind of power corrupts absolutely.
Sadly, that's the sum of it. The national security state considers the people who follow this site too small in number and too inconsequential to go after.
Joe Biden is the perfect president for Deep State dirtbags trying to evade accountability for a past crime. They got away with it under the narcissist Trump, who only cared about avoiding a “sticky” situation that might mess up his hair. With brain-dead Biden they didn’t even have to show him anything to get him to sign the certification order. “Sign here, Mr. President.” No problem. What a waste of space our current commander-in-chief is. What a zombie and utter disgrace.
That is of course nonsense, but it's what you do best: caricaturing Biden as far more disabled and inattentive than he is, for example, and supporting the inane, paranoid slur "Deep State dirtbags, " and the wacky "brain-dead Biden...zombie and disgrace" far right-wing kook rhetoric above your comment, along with the utterly zany attempt to pretend Trump
"only cared about avoiding a `sticky' situation that might mess up his hair. "
The probability is far greater that some of the "above top secret" documents Trump stole and may still be hiding are connected to the JFK assassination, something he can use for blackmail purposes.
While I would not reflexively use "probability", I admit this possibility is a consideration I never had. However, the insinuation that Mr. Trump "only cared" is so remote that "probability" is an appropriate word. I am not sure Mr. Trump ever saw anything extremely important to readers of this website.
"I am not sure Mr. Trump ever saw anything extremely important to readers of this website."
Ok, go ahead and engage your occult powers (just kidding! Any epistemological method that works is pragmatically justified, correct?) to discern what all of the readers of this website consider, not just important, not simply worth some attention, but within any given individual's political, sociological, moral, ethical and/or philosophical calculus, worthy of extreme interest.
I will remain agnostic on that kind of prognostication, and wish you a safe and prosperous Fourth of July!
This celebration of our nation's birth has arguably got a special meaning ( and it is one of a host of reasons why I deeply despise the vile and odious Donald J. Trump, as well as his deeply anti-American pseudo-patriotic cult confederacy of dunces, of course!) for the tens of millions of those persons - including my father, brothers, cousins, uncles - directly descended from the Winter Soldiers of the American Revolution, for instance, this fellow,* and his father, who attended the Connecticut ratification convention of the United States Constitution as the delegate from Warren, where he voted, "aye."
Generation Five
CURTIS, Eleazer b 23 Sep 1736 Lebanon Connecticut d 1 Oct 1788 Warren Connecticut
m 7 Feb 1759 Warren, Connecticut Mary Carter b 14 Apr 1739 Hebron, Connecticut d 2 Oct 1805 Warren Connecticut
Eleazer b 20 Oct 1759 Warren, Connecticut
Augustine b 8 Nov 1761 Warren, Connecticut
Lysander b 24 May 1763 Warren, Connecticut
Milton b 2 May 1765 Warren, Connecticut
Marsey Mitilda b 19 Oct 1767 Warren, Connecticut
Malley b 29 Aug 1769 Warren, Connecticut d 15 Oct 1776
Lucinda b 26 Mar 1771 Warren, Connecticut d 12 Oct 1776
Laura b 22 Jan 1773 Warren, Connecticut d 15 Oct 1776
Clarissa b 18 Jan 1775
George Washington b 28 Apr 1778 Warren, Connecticut
The farm owned by Eleazer Curtis in Warren is still known as 'Above all' because of its location on the level top of a hill (at least it was in 1945).
Eleazer started out his military career as an ensign of Second company or train band in 1770. In 1771 he was made lieutenant. On 1 May 1775 he was authorized by Governor Jonathan Trumbull to raise a company of one hundred men for the defense of the Colony. This probably became the 7th Company for which Eleazer was commissioned captain. After Fort Ticonderoga was taken by Benedict Arnold, Ethan Allen, and their men, Governor Turnbull** ordered Colonel Benjamin Hinan's Fourth Regiment to secure the fort and Crown Point against recapture. In 1778, the now Major Curtis was given command of Colonel Enos' Regiment.
After the war, Eleazer was sent to the Connecticut Convention at Hartford as representative for Warren. The Convention convened 1 Jan 1788 and Eleazer voted 'aye' for the ratification of the United States Constitution.
CURTIS, Mary b 21 Aug 1741 Warren, Connecticut
m 29 Dec 1763 John Carter b 18 Jun 1736
Philo b 30 Dec 1764
Salmon b 27 Nov 1766
Abel Curtis b 22 Jun 1769
Mary b 22 Jul 1771
Generation Six
* CURTIS, Eleazer b 20 Oct 1759 Warren, Litchfield County, Connecticut d 7 Sep 1801 Newbury Settlement, Little Hocking, Ohio
m 7 Nov 1782 Fairfield County, Connecticut Eunice Starr b 15 Aug 1766 Ridgefield Connecticut d 6 May 1814 Newbury Settlement, Little Hocking, Ohio
Eleazer Starr b 13 Sep 1783 Warren, Connecticut
Jason Ralph b 16 Dec 1785 Warren, Connecticut
Walter b 20 Sep 1787 Warren, Connecticut
Mary b 28 Jun 1789 Warren, Connecticut
Benajah b 20 Mar 1791 Warren, Connecticut
Horace b 7 Aug 1793 Washington County, Ohio
Clarissa b 3 Mar 1796 Washington County, Ohio
Lucy b 13 Aug 1798 Washington County, Ohio d 17 Oct 1798
Lucy b 26 Dec 1800 Washington County, Ohio
At the age of 16, Eleazer enlisted in the Continental Army just 15 days after Lexington and Concord. As a private in Captain Noadiah Hooker's Company he took part at Roxbury and in the siege of Boston until the end of his term of service. Four months after Washington's victories at Trenton and Princeton, Eleazer enlisted again on 21 April 1777 as a private in Captain Albert Chapman's Company for a term of 8 months. This company was part of the Seventh Regiment, Connecticut Line, commanded by Colonel Heman Swift, which fought at Germantown 4 October 1777. Eleazer then spent what must have been an unforgettable winter with Washington at Valley Forge.
He was present at the battle Monmouth on 28 June 1778. If he was with Joseph Martin who was also of the Connecticut Line, then he was responsible for holding back a British attack while the Americans made an orderly retreat. This gave the American artillery time to place some well-aimed fire on the British who "reluctantly crawled back from the height which they had occupied and hid themselves from our sight" as Joseph Martin put it. In Page Smith's A New Age Now Begins Smith characterizes the action: "This small episode may well have marked a turning point in the battle. As we have noted of other engagements, the key to most battles usually lies in some incident, typically involving a handful of soldiers who, quite outside the view of their commanding general, attack or defend in what subsequently turns out to have been the crucial action of the whole engagement." (P. 1096).
Four years after Cornwallis's surrender at Yorktown, Eleazer married Eunice Starr. They lived in Warren for nine years and had five children before deciding to make for Ohio.
** Alternate spelling `Trumbull' is also acceptable, as is Trimble, Trumble, etc.
And maybe the attitude of distrusting "the government" runs in the family, who knows, but
there have been some notable bearers of the name , for instance
James Youll Turnbull VC.
Two Turnbulls were Scottish recipients of the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces. The most famous being James Youll Turnbull, who single-handedly held a position for 24 hours, against almost a full regiment of Germans, with a machine gun in World War I. Each time the British tried to send reinforcements, they were wiped out due to the open ground exposing them to deadly crossfire. The ground was held by Turnbull singlehandedly, and this story became renowned for the British people in the dark days of the war. He died the next day while leading a Brigade of Highlanders on a grenade attack, which eventually turned the tide of the deadly stalemate where some 50,000 soldiers on both sides became casualties. Winston Churchill himself wrote on this defense in his book stating: On 1 July 1916 at Leipzig Salient, Authuille, France, Sergeant Turnbull's party captured a post of apparent importance to the enemy who immediately began heavy counter-attacks, which were continued throughout the day. Although his party was wiped out and replaced several times, Sergeant Turnbull never wavered in his determination to hold the post, the loss of which would have been very serious. Almost single-handed he maintained his position, displaying the highest degree of valour and skill in the performance of his duty. Later in the day, he was killed while engaged in a bombing counter-attack. The Germans were said, after seeing the body of Turnbull in his uniform kilt, to call him and all Scots "The Devils in Dress" and "Ladies from Hell!"
NARA determined the records subject to section 2(c) of the Biden 2022 Order could be certified for continued postponement of public disclosure and future disclosures would be governed by the Transparency Plans established pursuant to section 7 of the Order. The NARA determination that these 2(c) records could be further postponed from public disclosure was arbitrary and capricious because NARA accepted non-statutory criteria when recommending postponement .
NARA reviewed the Transparency Plans and found that they were appropriate. Because the Transparency Plans use non-statutory criteria, NARA’s approval of these plans was arbitrary and capricious . Moreover, because the Transparency provide for non-statutory grounds for postponement, they should be ruled to be invalid and enjoined.
Section Section 7 of the Biden 2022 Order also delegated to the National Declassification Center (NDC) to make future declassification decisions on assassination records. This delegation of postponement authority to the NDC was in violation of paragraph 9(d)(1) that the President had sole and non-delegable duty to make postponement decisions. Since section 7 of the Biden 2022 violates the JFK Act, the BIden Order should be ruled null and void, or at least section 7 stricken from the Biden 2022 Order
Section 5 of the June 30th Order doubles down on the approach. The order states:
“These Transparency Plans were reviewed by NARA, and the Acting Archivist previously advised me that use of the Transparency Plans by the NDC will ensure appropriate continued release of information covered by the Act. In the December 2022 Memorandum, I directed that the Transparency Plans submitted by agencies be used by the NDC to conduct future reviews of any information that has been postponed from public disclosure. On May 1, 2023, the Acting Archivist recommended continued use of agencies’ Transparency Plans to release information covered by the Act. Therefore, I direct the NDC to continue to use the Transparency Plans to conduct future reviews of any information covered by the Act that has been postponed from public disclosure.”
Since section 5 of the 2023 order once again delegates postponement authority to the NDC in violation of the President's sole and non-delegable duty to make postponement decisions, section 5 of the 2023 Order violates the JFK Act. Since principal purpose of the 2023 Order is to reaffirm the illegal delegation to NDC of all remaining redacted records, the 2023 order should be declared null and void, and enjoined.
It seems impossible that any of this done by NARA or Biden is legal. Compare to Biden’s executive order on student loan forgiveness.... struck down — why? because the President does not make law.
I think it’s going to come down to whether you have an honest judge… and whether you’re willing to fight at the level of the Supreme Court. 
It’s worth noting that Warren Commissioner John McCloy was notorious for having said “the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper”. This most recent executive order is nothing more than a big F You to the American people, their Legislators, the Congress, and the Constitution.
Biden v Nebraska helps our case. Presidents always try to push the constitutional and statutory envelope to advance political goals.The President is trying to aggregate power that the Congress did not confer to the executive under the JFK Act. The sad thing is that Biden has cowered to the exaggerated and incredulous claims of the intelligence community that disclosing 60-year old information somehow poses a risk to national security is of such gravity that it outweighs the strong public interest.
I really enjoyed listening to you on Black Op Radio. Great encapsulation of the case. Well done, and I hope lots of people listened. Odd how a Canadian was the only one to respond to your email blitz!
What I find interesting is that the government’s lawyers are trying to make this about separation of powers, yet I think it’s the co-equal branches principle of the Constitution that is one of the strongest points favoring the plaintiffs! I wouldn’t second-guess plaintiffs’ legal team, which is excellent, but I really don’t see how the defendants can argue their case based on separation of powers. It’s BIDEN who is usurping Congress’ power with the Transparency Plans and “final certification,” at least it seems so to me.
But whatever happens, I do believe the plaintiffs have made the stronger case, and this is evidenced by the government willfully and repeatedly ignoring or playing-down key points in their filings. Pray for a brave and honest judge!
Mr. Paul Q, what is going on has always been going on and will always be going on. Further, it goes on in every government everywhere. It is part of the DNA of government. It would be comforting if there actually was direct information in the files
This is a president who thinks he can unilaterally write off $400 billion in student debt because he wears cool Ray Bans. He released an executive order on a holiday friday night that says the JFK Records Act, which places SOLE responsibility for denying disclosure of assassination files on the president, and which he voted for as a senator, doesn't mean what the plain language of the act says it means. And a president who is "proud of his son," Hunter Biden, who just got a sweetheart deal from the DOJ for $200 million in tax evasion and fradulent purchase of a handgun when he was an active crack head. And he also has a 2 year old daughter in Arkansas whom he never visits, wants to stop paying child support to, and has fought efforts to allow her to claim her father's last name.
The 2 year old is better off without that name. Biden is NOT a blue collar guy from Scranton. I know; I'm from Scranton. He comes from a long line of Long Island war profiteers who were fined in BOTH WWI and WWII for illegal trading in government munitions contracts.(see: The New Yorker).
Left wing grifter (Biden) or right wing grifter (Trump); what;s the difference?
There's nothing left-wing about Joe, as anyone familiar with his career knows, beginning with his start as an anti-busing Delaware Dixiecrat and close friend of segregationist Strom Thurmond. Joe as friend of the working man is another great American myth created by the oligarchy.
The Bidens are literally a crime family. It was recently reported that the FBI knew the laptop story was true from the beginning.
In 'Unprecedented Show of Solidarity,' Major Labor Unions Endorse Biden for 2024
"The largest labor mobilization in history begins today, supercharged by the excitement and enthusiasm of hundreds of thousands of union volunteers who will work tirelessly to reelect a president they know has our backs," said the AFL-CIO president.
JESSICA CORBETT
Jun 16, 2023
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On the eve of a Philadelphia rally hosted by labor leaders, the AFL-CIO and 17 unions on Friday endorsed Democratic U.S. President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris for reelection in 2024.
During the 2020 campaign and since taking office, Biden has pledged "to be the most pro-union President leading the most pro-union administration in American history." He has won praise for various appointments—including Julie Su for labor secretary, which still lacks U.S. Senate approval—and actions to improve the lives of exploited workers.
Although Biden also has at times angered organized labor—particularly in December when he signed a congressional resolution preventing a nationwide rail strike as industry workers were fighting for paid sick leave—AFL-CIO president Liz Shuler still stressed Friday that "there's absolutely no question that Joe Biden is the most pro-union president in our lifetimes."
"From bringing manufacturing jobs home to America to protecting our pensions and making historic investments in infrastructure, clean energy, and education, we've never seen a president work so tirelessly to rebuild our economy from the bottom up and middle out," Shuler said. "We've never seen a president more forcefully advocate for workers' fundamental right to join a union."
"We've never seen a president more forcefully advocate for workers' fundamental right to join a union."
But of course zanies like you claim you "really" understand and represent the working people of America's best interests, and their endorsement of Biden is absolutely inexplicable, how can they be so blind when they have you to explain what a
LOL, obviously nonsense, distorted hyperbole very poorly constructed since NO PRESIDENT IN THE LAST SEVENTY OR MORE YEARS HAS "ALWAYS SIDED WITH BIG BUSINESS OVER WORKERS," HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, PLEASE TRY HARDER IN FUTURE, THIS IS VERY SHABBY PROPAGANDA EVEN FOR A TROLL!
Sincere thanks for the laugh, though, I am gonna have to feature this logical howler pattern of bogus reasoning in both my Substack Notes and the grad school seminar on current online social media propaganda at the U. Btw, shouldn't you be inventing more anti-vaxx lies after that Judge Doughty character in Looziana" decided to allow proven misinformation and disinformation "since it is protected speech" and arguably no government advice, informative messages, nothing, should bring lies, no matter how imminently dangerous, to the attention of You Tube or other social media bu$ine$$e$? Talk about "taking sides," what a crock that is, but at least it will end up spotlighting RFK Jr's record on vaccine misinformation and defamatory speech, so there's that.
Just think, you can post all the refuted statistical gibberish about COVID vaccines you like, isn't that an absorbing task to occupy your time? Right, off with you then, chop chop!
THIS!!!!! A priceless Opera Snapshot, "priceless" in the sense that it is a perfect self-own by the Troll, that's you, to help me indicate just how completely bereft of any shred of self-respect you people are, along with all the rest of the logic fails - the screenshot will serve as "Exhibit A" for discussion, philosophy grad students at the U. are typically very radical (you'd be stunned) and will enjoy this material. We also have access to this, your anti-vaxx posts can be dissected as the output of paralogical ideation:
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Trump is a seditious arch-criminal, for one thing, but by now I expect some these comments to be straight out of the Alex Jones/ Breitbart News far right lunatic fringe zone, including the idea that students don't deserve debt relief - for right-wingers (and I include Obama as a center-right politician) the banks are always the really important actors, they deserve to be bailed out, but real American citizens getting an education? Better that we create a permanent system of debt peonage.
To the contrary, since RFK Jr. has no chance that leaves intense legal maneuvers like those already outlined (seeking the injunction) and underway, including contacting our representatives (my rep is Ilhan Omar, senators are Klobuchar and Smith) phoning the White House switchboard and emailing them.
Just a national disgrace. I'm with those who say that the remaining documents and redactions are hiding embarrassing truths about government complicity in the killing of JFK and the subsequent coverup. At this point, 60 years later, the claims of potential harm to "national security" are just a smoke-screen for "certain shame and embarrassment" that the public must be spared from knowing about.
The above quote was a message from the Establishment to the American public in the wake of Vietnam and the tumult of the '60s.
It said in no uncertain terms that we the people have forgotten our place and must be put back into it. In other words, we are children who must be kept under control for our own good.
Therefore, the Power Elite in no uncertain terms declared of war on the American public.
"It's a proven fact" was the reply a group of professional colleagues of mine always used in response to any hyperbole. Huntington's observation might well go down with "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." I have heard disturbances are occurring in France at this moment. All JFK records should be released
This is very disappointing. The American people need to be made aware of this decree by POTUS, so it can become a campaign issue. Government secrecy, regarding the appropriate level so that it is not toxic, needs to be discussed.
Well, this is where I post this. My great uncle pretty well already released most of what’s in those files. I know it’s hard to believe but there is plenty of proof of what happened. He lost his security clearance when they discovered what he did.
Not a day goes by that I wonder if I am doing the right thing or that there may be a better way to get the story across. People in the metaverse that have seen the story range from near to tears and shock to telling me I am going to prison for sharing secrets.
Let me guess, it confirms what E. Howard Hunt said about how the coup was organized? There really isn't anything that would surprise members on this site anymore. Unless there was a specific narrative by LBJ, Angleton and the other henchmen with mafia like language about whacking people who were obstacles to their plans.
Yes, it’s a total disgrace but not unexpected. I hope I’m wrong but it may be another generation before all of it see’s the light of day. Obviously, they’re hiding something momentous.
There is a cynical side to this action, and anybody can see it. But this also comes as no surprise, and from the course of recent events appears to have been long planned.
My impression of Joe Biden is a malleable individual who will willingly cooperate with the power elite.
And that the National Security Establishment can push two different administrations into bending to their will shows where the real power lies in Washington.
The specious and vague arguments they use to justify this cover up stretches credulity and breeds even more suspicion as to what they are holding back. Could it be that they have invested so much into the Warren Commission story that any revelations to the contrary could potentially cause "Identifiable damage" to our institutions?
My own suspicions are that after all these decades there must be something in those documents that could adversely effect the image and credibility of the CIA and other agencies.
One bright note.
Robert Kennedy junior has made many public statements concerning the JFK Records Act and has openly come out in favor of declassifying the remaining documentation. He has stated that If elected, he will declassify the remaining JFK documents, as well as those regarding RFK and MLK.
However, if this does occur there may be the possibility that the CIA could go so far as to petition the Supreme Court to prevent the President from releasing them.
In any case, all this action will do is create further suspicion and distrust among the public.
Mark Groubert of America's Untold Stories reported yesterday that Trump now promises to release all the JFK docs if re-elected and that he regrets acceding to Pompeo's demands the last time. Of course with Trump, promises often have a short life span.
Precisely. With Trump, so many promises broken, so many lies told (30,000 during his presidency) nobody can trust a single thing he says about anything.
BIDEN HAS TO REALIZE HE WILL PAY A POLITICAL PRICE FOR UNILATERALLY AND UNLAWFULLY PREMATURELY TERMINATING THE JFK ACT.
PLEASE CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE TO EXPRESS YOUR OUTRAGE. ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO DO THE SAME.
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Phone comments : 202-456-1111
Because the JFK assassination was the defining moment of my life, I am going to also tell Biden that I will not vote for him (or for president at all if i dont like his opponent) until he orders the remaining records to be releasded in full. Others may not share the same view. This is a matter of conscious. But if share my sentiments, let him know.
Tell RFK Jr, Cornel West, Marianne Williamson, and Trump to make it a central campaign issue.
RFK Jr. and Trump automatically discredit any even remotely controversial issue they support, and this remains controversial - many American citizens are far more concerned about the loss of freedoms dictated by the self-appointed right wing cabal on the Supreme Court, for example, than the release of these "ancient documents."
It's up to us to help them realize it is important, but neither the neo-fascist coup-inciting arch-criminal Trump, facing a host of criminal indictments on top of those already filed, nor the champion of endangering thousands of young children with deadly diseases by convincing their parents not to vaccinate them, RFK Jr., have a scintilla of moral standing to help in any cause whatsoever.
Trump already reneged on his promise to release all the remaining documents. Fool me once.
What has Kamala promised with regard to releasing the remaining JFK docs?
Nada. No politician is going to spend any political capital on this issue. The upside for doing so is small and the downside is very frightening to them. Jefferson Morley said with Biden's executive order the CIA has a decisive win. Our best chance was in the aftermath of Oliver Stone's popular movie. Even then the CIA was able to control the damage. They can kill people. That kind of power corrupts absolutely.
Sadly, that's the sum of it. The national security state considers the people who follow this site too small in number and too inconsequential to go after.
Joe Biden is the perfect president for Deep State dirtbags trying to evade accountability for a past crime. They got away with it under the narcissist Trump, who only cared about avoiding a “sticky” situation that might mess up his hair. With brain-dead Biden they didn’t even have to show him anything to get him to sign the certification order. “Sign here, Mr. President.” No problem. What a waste of space our current commander-in-chief is. What a zombie and utter disgrace.
It's a "Weekend at Bernie's" presidency.
That is of course nonsense, but it's what you do best: caricaturing Biden as far more disabled and inattentive than he is, for example, and supporting the inane, paranoid slur "Deep State dirtbags, " and the wacky "brain-dead Biden...zombie and disgrace" far right-wing kook rhetoric above your comment, along with the utterly zany attempt to pretend Trump
"only cared about avoiding a `sticky' situation that might mess up his hair. "
The probability is far greater that some of the "above top secret" documents Trump stole and may still be hiding are connected to the JFK assassination, something he can use for blackmail purposes.
While I would not reflexively use "probability", I admit this possibility is a consideration I never had. However, the insinuation that Mr. Trump "only cared" is so remote that "probability" is an appropriate word. I am not sure Mr. Trump ever saw anything extremely important to readers of this website.
"I am not sure Mr. Trump ever saw anything extremely important to readers of this website."
Ok, go ahead and engage your occult powers (just kidding! Any epistemological method that works is pragmatically justified, correct?) to discern what all of the readers of this website consider, not just important, not simply worth some attention, but within any given individual's political, sociological, moral, ethical and/or philosophical calculus, worthy of extreme interest.
I will remain agnostic on that kind of prognostication, and wish you a safe and prosperous Fourth of July!
This celebration of our nation's birth has arguably got a special meaning ( and it is one of a host of reasons why I deeply despise the vile and odious Donald J. Trump, as well as his deeply anti-American pseudo-patriotic cult confederacy of dunces, of course!) for the tens of millions of those persons - including my father, brothers, cousins, uncles - directly descended from the Winter Soldiers of the American Revolution, for instance, this fellow,* and his father, who attended the Connecticut ratification convention of the United States Constitution as the delegate from Warren, where he voted, "aye."
Generation Five
CURTIS, Eleazer b 23 Sep 1736 Lebanon Connecticut d 1 Oct 1788 Warren Connecticut
m 7 Feb 1759 Warren, Connecticut Mary Carter b 14 Apr 1739 Hebron, Connecticut d 2 Oct 1805 Warren Connecticut
Eleazer b 20 Oct 1759 Warren, Connecticut
Augustine b 8 Nov 1761 Warren, Connecticut
Lysander b 24 May 1763 Warren, Connecticut
Milton b 2 May 1765 Warren, Connecticut
Marsey Mitilda b 19 Oct 1767 Warren, Connecticut
Malley b 29 Aug 1769 Warren, Connecticut d 15 Oct 1776
Lucinda b 26 Mar 1771 Warren, Connecticut d 12 Oct 1776
Laura b 22 Jan 1773 Warren, Connecticut d 15 Oct 1776
Clarissa b 18 Jan 1775
George Washington b 28 Apr 1778 Warren, Connecticut
The farm owned by Eleazer Curtis in Warren is still known as 'Above all' because of its location on the level top of a hill (at least it was in 1945).
Eleazer started out his military career as an ensign of Second company or train band in 1770. In 1771 he was made lieutenant. On 1 May 1775 he was authorized by Governor Jonathan Trumbull to raise a company of one hundred men for the defense of the Colony. This probably became the 7th Company for which Eleazer was commissioned captain. After Fort Ticonderoga was taken by Benedict Arnold, Ethan Allen, and their men, Governor Turnbull** ordered Colonel Benjamin Hinan's Fourth Regiment to secure the fort and Crown Point against recapture. In 1778, the now Major Curtis was given command of Colonel Enos' Regiment.
After the war, Eleazer was sent to the Connecticut Convention at Hartford as representative for Warren. The Convention convened 1 Jan 1788 and Eleazer voted 'aye' for the ratification of the United States Constitution.
CURTIS, Mary b 21 Aug 1741 Warren, Connecticut
m 29 Dec 1763 John Carter b 18 Jun 1736
Philo b 30 Dec 1764
Salmon b 27 Nov 1766
Abel Curtis b 22 Jun 1769
Mary b 22 Jul 1771
Generation Six
* CURTIS, Eleazer b 20 Oct 1759 Warren, Litchfield County, Connecticut d 7 Sep 1801 Newbury Settlement, Little Hocking, Ohio
m 7 Nov 1782 Fairfield County, Connecticut Eunice Starr b 15 Aug 1766 Ridgefield Connecticut d 6 May 1814 Newbury Settlement, Little Hocking, Ohio
Eleazer Starr b 13 Sep 1783 Warren, Connecticut
Jason Ralph b 16 Dec 1785 Warren, Connecticut
Walter b 20 Sep 1787 Warren, Connecticut
Mary b 28 Jun 1789 Warren, Connecticut
Benajah b 20 Mar 1791 Warren, Connecticut
Horace b 7 Aug 1793 Washington County, Ohio
Clarissa b 3 Mar 1796 Washington County, Ohio
Lucy b 13 Aug 1798 Washington County, Ohio d 17 Oct 1798
Lucy b 26 Dec 1800 Washington County, Ohio
At the age of 16, Eleazer enlisted in the Continental Army just 15 days after Lexington and Concord. As a private in Captain Noadiah Hooker's Company he took part at Roxbury and in the siege of Boston until the end of his term of service. Four months after Washington's victories at Trenton and Princeton, Eleazer enlisted again on 21 April 1777 as a private in Captain Albert Chapman's Company for a term of 8 months. This company was part of the Seventh Regiment, Connecticut Line, commanded by Colonel Heman Swift, which fought at Germantown 4 October 1777. Eleazer then spent what must have been an unforgettable winter with Washington at Valley Forge.
He was present at the battle Monmouth on 28 June 1778. If he was with Joseph Martin who was also of the Connecticut Line, then he was responsible for holding back a British attack while the Americans made an orderly retreat. This gave the American artillery time to place some well-aimed fire on the British who "reluctantly crawled back from the height which they had occupied and hid themselves from our sight" as Joseph Martin put it. In Page Smith's A New Age Now Begins Smith characterizes the action: "This small episode may well have marked a turning point in the battle. As we have noted of other engagements, the key to most battles usually lies in some incident, typically involving a handful of soldiers who, quite outside the view of their commanding general, attack or defend in what subsequently turns out to have been the crucial action of the whole engagement." (P. 1096).
Four years after Cornwallis's surrender at Yorktown, Eleazer married Eunice Starr. They lived in Warren for nine years and had five children before deciding to make for Ohio.
** Alternate spelling `Trumbull' is also acceptable, as is Trimble, Trumble, etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Turnbull
And maybe the attitude of distrusting "the government" runs in the family, who knows, but
there have been some notable bearers of the name , for instance
James Youll Turnbull VC.
Two Turnbulls were Scottish recipients of the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces. The most famous being James Youll Turnbull, who single-handedly held a position for 24 hours, against almost a full regiment of Germans, with a machine gun in World War I. Each time the British tried to send reinforcements, they were wiped out due to the open ground exposing them to deadly crossfire. The ground was held by Turnbull singlehandedly, and this story became renowned for the British people in the dark days of the war. He died the next day while leading a Brigade of Highlanders on a grenade attack, which eventually turned the tide of the deadly stalemate where some 50,000 soldiers on both sides became casualties. Winston Churchill himself wrote on this defense in his book stating: On 1 July 1916 at Leipzig Salient, Authuille, France, Sergeant Turnbull's party captured a post of apparent importance to the enemy who immediately began heavy counter-attacks, which were continued throughout the day. Although his party was wiped out and replaced several times, Sergeant Turnbull never wavered in his determination to hold the post, the loss of which would have been very serious. Almost single-handed he maintained his position, displaying the highest degree of valour and skill in the performance of his duty. Later in the day, he was killed while engaged in a bombing counter-attack. The Germans were said, after seeing the body of Turnbull in his uniform kilt, to call him and all Scots "The Devils in Dress" and "Ladies from Hell!"
NARA determined the records subject to section 2(c) of the Biden 2022 Order could be certified for continued postponement of public disclosure and future disclosures would be governed by the Transparency Plans established pursuant to section 7 of the Order. The NARA determination that these 2(c) records could be further postponed from public disclosure was arbitrary and capricious because NARA accepted non-statutory criteria when recommending postponement .
NARA reviewed the Transparency Plans and found that they were appropriate. Because the Transparency Plans use non-statutory criteria, NARA’s approval of these plans was arbitrary and capricious . Moreover, because the Transparency provide for non-statutory grounds for postponement, they should be ruled to be invalid and enjoined.
Section Section 7 of the Biden 2022 Order also delegated to the National Declassification Center (NDC) to make future declassification decisions on assassination records. This delegation of postponement authority to the NDC was in violation of paragraph 9(d)(1) that the President had sole and non-delegable duty to make postponement decisions. Since section 7 of the Biden 2022 violates the JFK Act, the BIden Order should be ruled null and void, or at least section 7 stricken from the Biden 2022 Order
Section 5 of the June 30th Order doubles down on the approach. The order states:
“These Transparency Plans were reviewed by NARA, and the Acting Archivist previously advised me that use of the Transparency Plans by the NDC will ensure appropriate continued release of information covered by the Act. In the December 2022 Memorandum, I directed that the Transparency Plans submitted by agencies be used by the NDC to conduct future reviews of any information that has been postponed from public disclosure. On May 1, 2023, the Acting Archivist recommended continued use of agencies’ Transparency Plans to release information covered by the Act. Therefore, I direct the NDC to continue to use the Transparency Plans to conduct future reviews of any information covered by the Act that has been postponed from public disclosure.”
Since section 5 of the 2023 order once again delegates postponement authority to the NDC in violation of the President's sole and non-delegable duty to make postponement decisions, section 5 of the 2023 Order violates the JFK Act. Since principal purpose of the 2023 Order is to reaffirm the illegal delegation to NDC of all remaining redacted records, the 2023 order should be declared null and void, and enjoined.
It seems impossible that any of this done by NARA or Biden is legal. Compare to Biden’s executive order on student loan forgiveness.... struck down — why? because the President does not make law.
I think it’s going to come down to whether you have an honest judge… and whether you’re willing to fight at the level of the Supreme Court. 
It’s worth noting that Warren Commissioner John McCloy was notorious for having said “the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper”. This most recent executive order is nothing more than a big F You to the American people, their Legislators, the Congress, and the Constitution.
Biden v Nebraska helps our case. Presidents always try to push the constitutional and statutory envelope to advance political goals.The President is trying to aggregate power that the Congress did not confer to the executive under the JFK Act. The sad thing is that Biden has cowered to the exaggerated and incredulous claims of the intelligence community that disclosing 60-year old information somehow poses a risk to national security is of such gravity that it outweighs the strong public interest.
I really enjoyed listening to you on Black Op Radio. Great encapsulation of the case. Well done, and I hope lots of people listened. Odd how a Canadian was the only one to respond to your email blitz!
I don’t think any president is stupid. They know what those final docs would say about American institutions.
And ‘exceptionalism.’
After Trump and the current Supreme Court, what more does anyone need? A successful seditious insurrection? Bringing back the Jim Crow laws?
What I find interesting is that the government’s lawyers are trying to make this about separation of powers, yet I think it’s the co-equal branches principle of the Constitution that is one of the strongest points favoring the plaintiffs! I wouldn’t second-guess plaintiffs’ legal team, which is excellent, but I really don’t see how the defendants can argue their case based on separation of powers. It’s BIDEN who is usurping Congress’ power with the Transparency Plans and “final certification,” at least it seems so to me.
But whatever happens, I do believe the plaintiffs have made the stronger case, and this is evidenced by the government willfully and repeatedly ignoring or playing-down key points in their filings. Pray for a brave and honest judge!
once again, reach out to your representatives and ask them to hold an oversight hearing on the premature termination of the JFK Act.
Assuming your representatives care about what you think.
Wow... This move speaks volumes about what’s really going on. Is there a smoking gun in those files? You’re damn right there is.
The Transparency Plan has rendered their corruption transparent.
Mr. Paul Q, what is going on has always been going on and will always be going on. Further, it goes on in every government everywhere. It is part of the DNA of government. It would be comforting if there actually was direct information in the files
This is a president who thinks he can unilaterally write off $400 billion in student debt because he wears cool Ray Bans. He released an executive order on a holiday friday night that says the JFK Records Act, which places SOLE responsibility for denying disclosure of assassination files on the president, and which he voted for as a senator, doesn't mean what the plain language of the act says it means. And a president who is "proud of his son," Hunter Biden, who just got a sweetheart deal from the DOJ for $200 million in tax evasion and fradulent purchase of a handgun when he was an active crack head. And he also has a 2 year old daughter in Arkansas whom he never visits, wants to stop paying child support to, and has fought efforts to allow her to claim her father's last name.
The 2 year old is better off without that name. Biden is NOT a blue collar guy from Scranton. I know; I'm from Scranton. He comes from a long line of Long Island war profiteers who were fined in BOTH WWI and WWII for illegal trading in government munitions contracts.(see: The New Yorker).
Left wing grifter (Biden) or right wing grifter (Trump); what;s the difference?
There's nothing left-wing about Joe, as anyone familiar with his career knows, beginning with his start as an anti-busing Delaware Dixiecrat and close friend of segregationist Strom Thurmond. Joe as friend of the working man is another great American myth created by the oligarchy.
The Bidens are literally a crime family. It was recently reported that the FBI knew the laptop story was true from the beginning.
In 'Unprecedented Show of Solidarity,' Major Labor Unions Endorse Biden for 2024
"The largest labor mobilization in history begins today, supercharged by the excitement and enthusiasm of hundreds of thousands of union volunteers who will work tirelessly to reelect a president they know has our backs," said the AFL-CIO president.
JESSICA CORBETT
Jun 16, 2023
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On the eve of a Philadelphia rally hosted by labor leaders, the AFL-CIO and 17 unions on Friday endorsed Democratic U.S. President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris for reelection in 2024.
During the 2020 campaign and since taking office, Biden has pledged "to be the most pro-union President leading the most pro-union administration in American history." He has won praise for various appointments—including Julie Su for labor secretary, which still lacks U.S. Senate approval—and actions to improve the lives of exploited workers.
Although Biden also has at times angered organized labor—particularly in December when he signed a congressional resolution preventing a nationwide rail strike as industry workers were fighting for paid sick leave—AFL-CIO president Liz Shuler still stressed Friday that "there's absolutely no question that Joe Biden is the most pro-union president in our lifetimes."
"From bringing manufacturing jobs home to America to protecting our pensions and making historic investments in infrastructure, clean energy, and education, we've never seen a president work so tirelessly to rebuild our economy from the bottom up and middle out," Shuler said. "We've never seen a president more forcefully advocate for workers' fundamental right to join a union."
"We've never seen a president more forcefully advocate for workers' fundamental right to join a union."
www.commondreams.org/news/unions-endorse-biden-2024
But of course zanies like you claim you "really" understand and represent the working people of America's best interests, and their endorsement of Biden is absolutely inexplicable, how can they be so blind when they have you to explain what a
"brain-dead zombie and disgrace" Biden is!
When push comes to shove, Biden always sides with big business over workers.
Biden Thwarts MASSIVE Railroad Strike To Protect Wealthy Corporations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_wE5n8qb-g
"Enough Is Enough": Rail Workers Decry Biden's Push to Impose Strike-Breaking Labor Deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZVRSgZSuZA
"Yesterday's Man: The Case Against Joe Biden" by Branko Marcetic.
Great TYT video...!
LOL, obviously nonsense, distorted hyperbole very poorly constructed since NO PRESIDENT IN THE LAST SEVENTY OR MORE YEARS HAS "ALWAYS SIDED WITH BIG BUSINESS OVER WORKERS," HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, PLEASE TRY HARDER IN FUTURE, THIS IS VERY SHABBY PROPAGANDA EVEN FOR A TROLL!
Sincere thanks for the laugh, though, I am gonna have to feature this logical howler pattern of bogus reasoning in both my Substack Notes and the grad school seminar on current online social media propaganda at the U. Btw, shouldn't you be inventing more anti-vaxx lies after that Judge Doughty character in Looziana" decided to allow proven misinformation and disinformation "since it is protected speech" and arguably no government advice, informative messages, nothing, should bring lies, no matter how imminently dangerous, to the attention of You Tube or other social media bu$ine$$e$? Talk about "taking sides," what a crock that is, but at least it will end up spotlighting RFK Jr's record on vaccine misinformation and defamatory speech, so there's that.
Just think, you can post all the refuted statistical gibberish about COVID vaccines you like, isn't that an absorbing task to occupy your time? Right, off with you then, chop chop!
What "laptop story" is that? Be specific.
Stuff it, J.D.
^^^^^
THIS!!!!! A priceless Opera Snapshot, "priceless" in the sense that it is a perfect self-own by the Troll, that's you, to help me indicate just how completely bereft of any shred of self-respect you people are, along with all the rest of the logic fails - the screenshot will serve as "Exhibit A" for discussion, philosophy grad students at the U. are typically very radical (you'd be stunned) and will enjoy this material. We also have access to this, your anti-vaxx posts can be dissected as the output of paralogical ideation:
https://experts.umn.edu/en/organisations/minnesota-center-for-philosophy-of-science
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This is a good example of why almost no one reads your posts.
Trump is a seditious arch-criminal, for one thing, but by now I expect some these comments to be straight out of the Alex Jones/ Breitbart News far right lunatic fringe zone, including the idea that students don't deserve debt relief - for right-wingers (and I include Obama as a center-right politician) the banks are always the really important actors, they deserve to be bailed out, but real American citizens getting an education? Better that we create a permanent system of debt peonage.
If Obama is center-right, what's Biden?
new yorker source please?
The source is a New Yorker article on 8/15/22 by Adam Entous, titled "The Untold Story of the Biden Family."
I used to subscribe to the New Yorker and they have erected a paywall on my computer, so I can't access the article. Maybe you can?
What a disgrace, hopefully the litigation keeps the pressure on but our best shot at seeing the remaining files is probably a RFK Jr. presidency.
To the contrary, since RFK Jr. has no chance that leaves intense legal maneuvers like those already outlined (seeking the injunction) and underway, including contacting our representatives (my rep is Ilhan Omar, senators are Klobuchar and Smith) phoning the White House switchboard and emailing them.
the darker the deed
the deeper the deception
Just a national disgrace. I'm with those who say that the remaining documents and redactions are hiding embarrassing truths about government complicity in the killing of JFK and the subsequent coverup. At this point, 60 years later, the claims of potential harm to "national security" are just a smoke-screen for "certain shame and embarrassment" that the public must be spared from knowing about.
"The American people have become ungovernable, and must be returned to their normal state of apathy."
Samuel P. Huntington
"The Crisis of Democracy" 1975
It is a proven fact.
The above quote was a message from the Establishment to the American public in the wake of Vietnam and the tumult of the '60s.
It said in no uncertain terms that we the people have forgotten our place and must be put back into it. In other words, we are children who must be kept under control for our own good.
Therefore, the Power Elite in no uncertain terms declared of war on the American public.
"It's a proven fact" was the reply a group of professional colleagues of mine always used in response to any hyperbole. Huntington's observation might well go down with "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." I have heard disturbances are occurring in France at this moment. All JFK records should be released
This is very disappointing. The American people need to be made aware of this decree by POTUS, so it can become a campaign issue. Government secrecy, regarding the appropriate level so that it is not toxic, needs to be discussed.
JFK conspiracy and unending coverup by the USG confirmed.
Well, this is where I post this. My great uncle pretty well already released most of what’s in those files. I know it’s hard to believe but there is plenty of proof of what happened. He lost his security clearance when they discovered what he did.
Is there a source for that?
Meet me in the metaverse. That’s the only place that I am sharing information at the moment.
Horizon Worlds to be exact. But I am relentlessly trying to get this story out.
I've never checked that site out. Why not share it on Substack?
Not a day goes by that I wonder if I am doing the right thing or that there may be a better way to get the story across. People in the metaverse that have seen the story range from near to tears and shock to telling me I am going to prison for sharing secrets.
I have no idea how to navigate that site.
Let me guess, it confirms what E. Howard Hunt said about how the coup was organized? There really isn't anything that would surprise members on this site anymore. Unless there was a specific narrative by LBJ, Angleton and the other henchmen with mafia like language about whacking people who were obstacles to their plans.
Yes, it’s a total disgrace but not unexpected. I hope I’m wrong but it may be another generation before all of it see’s the light of day. Obviously, they’re hiding something momentous.
This is the work of his advisors such as Avril Haines, etc. who ran the pandemic rules....He is surrounded by dangerous spooks like that.
Whoever runs the executive branch, it isn't Dementia Joe.
I don’t think Joe decides anything beyond what he has for dessert.
There is a cynical side to this action, and anybody can see it. But this also comes as no surprise, and from the course of recent events appears to have been long planned.
My impression of Joe Biden is a malleable individual who will willingly cooperate with the power elite.
And that the National Security Establishment can push two different administrations into bending to their will shows where the real power lies in Washington.
The specious and vague arguments they use to justify this cover up stretches credulity and breeds even more suspicion as to what they are holding back. Could it be that they have invested so much into the Warren Commission story that any revelations to the contrary could potentially cause "Identifiable damage" to our institutions?
My own suspicions are that after all these decades there must be something in those documents that could adversely effect the image and credibility of the CIA and other agencies.
One bright note.
Robert Kennedy junior has made many public statements concerning the JFK Records Act and has openly come out in favor of declassifying the remaining documentation. He has stated that If elected, he will declassify the remaining JFK documents, as well as those regarding RFK and MLK.
However, if this does occur there may be the possibility that the CIA could go so far as to petition the Supreme Court to prevent the President from releasing them.
In any case, all this action will do is create further suspicion and distrust among the public.
Mark Groubert of America's Untold Stories reported yesterday that Trump now promises to release all the JFK docs if re-elected and that he regrets acceding to Pompeo's demands the last time. Of course with Trump, promises often have a short life span.
Precisely. With Trump, so many promises broken, so many lies told (30,000 during his presidency) nobody can trust a single thing he says about anything.