I sincerely hope all the members of the task force understand what an incredible opportunity this hearing presents to ask probing questions. They will never get an opportunity like this again. And as this latest round of document releases shows, every single word uttered by members and witnesses will be examined in great detail by researchers for years to come.
Abraham Bolden is a good man who was framed and imprisoned for years simply for telling truth to power.
He can shed light on the dark history of the JFK murder. The complicity of the Secret Service in the planning and execution of this coup is sickening.
James Rowley filed his report on the Chicago incident in such a way that the information would not be available to the agents on the ground in Dallas or to the FBI. Source Peter Dale Scott.
Emory Roberts called back Ss agents from the follow up car running to Kennedy’s aid.
In the McIntyre photo of both Kennedy’s limousine and the Ss follow up car (after going through the underpass) shows David Morales on the side board.
David Lifton had reported Jackie screaming at the agents in the Presidential Limousine and I discounted this report.
After seeing Morales in the follow up car, I now believe Lifton.
Tomorrow’s hearing will be historic. Kudos and thanks to Jefferson and Chad and all the others who have worked so unbelievably hard for years. We now have arrived at this historic moment; to hear the testimony of these living witnesses will be amazing. Their voices have been silenced for all these decades. Thanks to Luna and all those involved.
What is your source for Morales being in the "Queen Mary"? I've looked at many photographs of that car after the shots were fired and don't see him. Can you provide a link to a source for this claim?
As for the SS performance as a whole, Roy Kellerman, riding in the front seat of the JFK limo, just sat there through the whole horror and made no move to protect anyone. That fact is too seldom mentioned. How did he not lose his job over that? Unless, of course, that WAS his job . . .
Cory Hughes' book A Warning From History has the photos. Buy the book and read it as Cory has put a ton of time into his research. I just googled "McIntyre photo JFK" and the 2nd photo displayed shows David Morales clear as day on the running board of the SS follow up car. Morales was not on the Queen Mary but on the running board of the follow up car. (Maybe he was there to ensure the shot was fatal oer needed to go to hospital to plant evidence on a strecher). The follow up car would have had to stop or slow down to pick him up. The Queen Mary may have stopped as well which would have certainly enraged Jackie Kennedy.
Cory has an interesting as hell idea on the identity of the short man standing next to Morales on the side of the followup car, but let his book tell you.
He did say during his interview with Arlen Specter for the Warren Commission, “a flurry of shells came into the car.”
I believe Kellerman pushed back against whatever narrative Spector was crafting. His “flurry” comment appears to contradict the “3 distinct shots” narrative.
The witness list on the website, per the link below, also includes Mr. Douglas Horne. That is great news, as I assume he'll provide evidence/testimony on the fraudulent/fake autopsy. Jeff, great job in helping to bring forth a very strong line-up for the hearing. Well Done!!
Well, Jefferson, your amazing fortitude and perseverance is paying off after all these years. No matter what the remaining files divulge, you have been heroic in the effort for full disclosure. Just a phenomenal job. Thank you for bringing Bolden and the other witnesses to testify. It's almost shocking that we're going to hear the truth in the halls of Congress.
JFK embraced the racial issue that had plagued this nation since its inception by requiring Mississippi State to accept James Meredith, a person of color. Bolden de-segregated his SS Detail. In 2025, this Nation is still reeling from racial issues which do not meet “All Men (persons) Are Created Equal.” One could state that this Nation is in retreat from honoring the Constitution. Certainly hope Luna, a person of color, can help this Nation rectify the direction of our journey!
Jeff, THANKS for the links! Dr. Robert A. McClelland, now deceased, had consistently identified the right-temple wound as an entrance wound, which exited behind the right ear, leaving an opening the size of a baseball. This analysis DID NOT meet with Arlan Specter’s claim that all three shots originated from the TSBD. In Dr. Curtis’ testimony to Arlan Specter, Dr. Robert A. McClelland’s name was not identified as one of the doctors in Trauma One. Coincidence? Perhaps, selective interrogation?! (Seems to have been the m.o. of the Warren Commission.) Oh, the stench!
Just a little grandstanding from a lady who doesn't think using Oswald as an asset qualifies as knowing anything about him. I liked when Jeff pounded the table with the 200 page document in the first hearing.
Assume for argument's sake that this latest USG "investigation" officially removes "probably" from the HSCA final conclusion regarding conspiracy.
All done? Time to strike the tents, forge new plowshares, and retire to a brave, newly furrowed world?
Would such a scenario satisfy our moral obligations to define and effect justice for JFK and the untold millions collaterally damaged by his assassins?
Would it encourage or render moot continued searches by honorable radical historians for the Sponsors, Facilitators, and Mechanics of the assassination and cover-up?
Would it encourage or deter the war profiteers who endlessly write cash grab books and blogs in which they knowingly regurgitate with airs of discovery long-known facts?
What is your endgame? Answer the question.
Because if you refuse, then all that you're doing is planning a route without a destination.
I think the "endgame," as you call it, is perfectly clear: follow up any and all leads to discover how deep into the Kennedy government the assassination plotting went, and to reveal what similar government involvements may have been behind the Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King assassinations.
Historical researching of a crime isn't like a normal criminal investigation. For one thing, it's unlikely that anyone will ever be brought to justice for their roles in the assassination. Nearly all of the Big Players, from Angleton and Dulles to GHW Bush and Lyndon John are all dead and gone. There may be a shooter or spotter still alive, but I doubt it.
Still, learning the truth in and of itself is vitally important, and is the true "end game." We have to root out not just the conspiracy to kill Kennedy, but the follow-on conspiracies both to cover-up that initial conspiracy, as well as the silencing of dozens of witnesses. We have to think of this in a similar light to the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission (the TRC). They weren't necessarily looking to convict individuals, though many deserved it. They were aiming for a complete accounting of what happened and who participated.
Until we have a full accounting of the truth behind the hundreds of crimes surrounding the JFK, RFK and MLK assassinations, and the ensuing endemic coverups that were used to hide the truth, we'll never know how broken our current system is. Nor will we know what future safeguards will be needed to be put in place to do a better job in protecting or Democracy from such a tragedy ever happening again.
Much of it provokes agreement and thought. But I strongly disagree with two of your foundational conclusions:
-- I am convinced that the JFK conspiracy was a supra-national operation. To restrict your focus on the broadly accepted "American coup d'etat" model is to make a mockery of the cui bono investigative method which, when applied to this case and refined by the means/motive/opportunity metric, reveals likely complicity by, for starters, hard line Soviet players.
-- If we expand our concepts of justice in this instance, then I am convinced that it remains attainable. And for me it is not dependent upon convicting surviving original conspirators, but rather exposing and severely damaging the existing system from which they emerged.
As my bio offered below indicates, I am a co-founder of the original JFK Truth and Amnesty Commission. I bring it up to assure you that I'm quite familiar with the earlier South African model on which our ultimately stymied effort was based.
Thanks again.
Charles Drago
Author of the Introduction to "A Certain Arrogance" by George Michael Evica; author of the Afterword to "Coup in Dallas" by H.P. Albarelli, Jr.; nominator of Jim Garrison for a "Profile in Courage Award"; co-founder of the "JFK Truth and Amnesty Commission"; co-producr of the "Second Research Conference of 'The Third Decade'"; co-author of the Evica-Drago Conspiracy Model; author of numerous papers delivered at national JFK assassination-themed conferences and published in scholarly journals; author of "Autumn Too Long", a lecture commissioned and e-published by the AARC; creator of "The Doppelganger Gambit" hypothesis; creator of the "Chicago plot as Dallas security ruse" hypothesis; etc.
I am by no means unaware of the lengths to which the US bad actors could have and most likely did use any and all resources at their disposal to eliminate the President, and cover up any ensuing investigation. But I am unaware of any "complicity by...hard line Soviet players" as you mention in your reply. What exactly are you referring to?
When it comes to the killing of Kennedy, the US military, CIA and Secret Service had plenty of cards to play, from reducing the effectiveness of the security detail, to hiring Cuban assassins connected to the Bay of Pigs, to the cleaning of the limousine, and the falsification of the autopsy. Angleton for one, and Curtis LeMay for another, would have definitely not wanted any connection to any "outside the loop" contacts who could not be trusted, and the Soviets at time were surely seen as much an enemy to their plans as Kennedy.
There are loops, and there are loops. The Soviet Union was not a monolithic cultural entity. Hardliners and reformers were at each others' throats -- figuratively and literally.
The Cold War was the source of immense wealth and power for its major combatants. JFK represented the prime threat not TO peace, but rather OF peace. And Khrushchev was with him. The enemy of my enemy ...
I'm pressed for time, but I humbly suggest that you check out the Evica-Drago Conspiracy Model and it's Sponsors/Facilitators/Mechanics breakdown. Also my ARRC lecture, which is available on its YouTube page. And my Afterword to Albarelli's "Coup in Dallas".
Again, I disagree with many of your conclusions. One glaring example is your "Cuban assassins" claim, which is wholly unsupported by the evidence.
As for LeMay, consider the possibility that for all of his power and swagger, he was not a Sponsor of the Dallas action, but rather a Facilitator.
I think it would behoove you to at least qualify your assertions -- perhaps to state them as probabilities, since neither you nor anyone else at this point has dispositive evidence about what actually happened in Dallas that day.
TemplarScribe -- I meant to add the friendly reminder that confirmation bias is fatal to even the best-intentioned research -- a lesson I learned the hard way.
If you call Abraham Bolden, you should also call Christopher Fulton. He has a similar experience in terms of imprisonment because of what he knows of the JFK assassination.
Historian Alexis Coe is up on X, people might post replies to advise her why the Warren Commission version of the JFK assassination is so ludicrous. Send her here or to kennedysandking.com, it will save her from many many mistakes, if she has the scholarly nous to realize how little she actually knows about the assassination's details, Oswald's role, and on and on and on.
As a commenter said on here recently, "Hope springs eternal."
I wasn't able to see most of the hearing. Will there be a full transcript released of Mr. Bolden's testimony? He was hard to hear, given that he mainly couldn't speak into the microphone. I think A.I.-edited audio could pick up what he said well. Shame on his team for not helping him sit up and speak into the microphone! They could've moved him over a bit, and the microphone would've picked him up.
I sincerely hope all the members of the task force understand what an incredible opportunity this hearing presents to ask probing questions. They will never get an opportunity like this again. And as this latest round of document releases shows, every single word uttered by members and witnesses will be examined in great detail by researchers for years to come.
Abraham Bolden is a good man who was framed and imprisoned for years simply for telling truth to power.
He can shed light on the dark history of the JFK murder. The complicity of the Secret Service in the planning and execution of this coup is sickening.
James Rowley filed his report on the Chicago incident in such a way that the information would not be available to the agents on the ground in Dallas or to the FBI. Source Peter Dale Scott.
Emory Roberts called back Ss agents from the follow up car running to Kennedy’s aid.
In the McIntyre photo of both Kennedy’s limousine and the Ss follow up car (after going through the underpass) shows David Morales on the side board.
David Lifton had reported Jackie screaming at the agents in the Presidential Limousine and I discounted this report.
After seeing Morales in the follow up car, I now believe Lifton.
Tomorrow’s hearing will be historic. Kudos and thanks to Jefferson and Chad and all the others who have worked so unbelievably hard for years. We now have arrived at this historic moment; to hear the testimony of these living witnesses will be amazing. Their voices have been silenced for all these decades. Thanks to Luna and all those involved.
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmorales.htm
What is your source for Morales being in the "Queen Mary"? I've looked at many photographs of that car after the shots were fired and don't see him. Can you provide a link to a source for this claim?
As for the SS performance as a whole, Roy Kellerman, riding in the front seat of the JFK limo, just sat there through the whole horror and made no move to protect anyone. That fact is too seldom mentioned. How did he not lose his job over that? Unless, of course, that WAS his job . . .
he was 3rd string rookie who followed orders to keep his job.
Greer was the planted driver after JFK's regular driver was murdered at Camp David a few months before November.
Cory Hughes' book A Warning From History has the photos. Buy the book and read it as Cory has put a ton of time into his research. I just googled "McIntyre photo JFK" and the 2nd photo displayed shows David Morales clear as day on the running board of the SS follow up car. Morales was not on the Queen Mary but on the running board of the follow up car. (Maybe he was there to ensure the shot was fatal oer needed to go to hospital to plant evidence on a strecher). The follow up car would have had to stop or slow down to pick him up. The Queen Mary may have stopped as well which would have certainly enraged Jackie Kennedy.
Cory has an interesting as hell idea on the identity of the short man standing next to Morales on the side of the followup car, but let his book tell you.
I don't see any photos showing Morales on the follow-up car. Can you provide a link?
https://images.app.goo.gl/mPWheaBsNpHtZzhh7
On a iphone, picture not as good. Look at url on a desktop and it’s far clearer
Maybe he was hungover.
Add zero athletic ability.
Not being sarcastic here.
Did these guys even train physically for the job back then?
They all smoked Camels, and drank scotch.
It could be he was a bit in shock, and lacked any athletic prowess.
Sometimes what you see in front of you can have a simple explanation.
He did say during his interview with Arlen Specter for the Warren Commission, “a flurry of shells came into the car.”
I believe Kellerman pushed back against whatever narrative Spector was crafting. His “flurry” comment appears to contradict the “3 distinct shots” narrative.
God bless Abraham Bolden, an American hero.
The witness list on the website, per the link below, also includes Mr. Douglas Horne. That is great news, as I assume he'll provide evidence/testimony on the fraudulent/fake autopsy. Jeff, great job in helping to bring forth a very strong line-up for the hearing. Well Done!!
https://oversight.house.gov/hearing/the-jfk-files-assessing-over-60-years-of-the-federal-governments-obstruction-obfuscation-and-deception/
Doug Horne will be a great witness tomorrow. I honestly can’t believe that he was called. This gets better by the minute
Well, Jefferson, your amazing fortitude and perseverance is paying off after all these years. No matter what the remaining files divulge, you have been heroic in the effort for full disclosure. Just a phenomenal job. Thank you for bringing Bolden and the other witnesses to testify. It's almost shocking that we're going to hear the truth in the halls of Congress.
JFK embraced the racial issue that had plagued this nation since its inception by requiring Mississippi State to accept James Meredith, a person of color. Bolden de-segregated his SS Detail. In 2025, this Nation is still reeling from racial issues which do not meet “All Men (persons) Are Created Equal.” One could state that this Nation is in retreat from honoring the Constitution. Certainly hope Luna, a person of color, can help this Nation rectify the direction of our journey!
Please buy (and read) Abraham's autobiography. An American hero, bar none.
Info on one of the witnesses, Dr. Don Curtis.... https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/curtis.htm https://jfkfacts.org/memories-parkland-doctor/
http://jfkthefrontshot.blogspot.com/2013/11/dr-donald-t-curtis-confirms-front.html
Jeff, THANKS for the links! Dr. Robert A. McClelland, now deceased, had consistently identified the right-temple wound as an entrance wound, which exited behind the right ear, leaving an opening the size of a baseball. This analysis DID NOT meet with Arlan Specter’s claim that all three shots originated from the TSBD. In Dr. Curtis’ testimony to Arlan Specter, Dr. Robert A. McClelland’s name was not identified as one of the doctors in Trauma One. Coincidence? Perhaps, selective interrogation?! (Seems to have been the m.o. of the Warren Commission.) Oh, the stench!
Will we have to endure more dumb ass questions from the members of Congress? They better not pull that crap again.
Just a little grandstanding from a lady who doesn't think using Oswald as an asset qualifies as knowing anything about him. I liked when Jeff pounded the table with the 200 page document in the first hearing.
So let's think about your endgame.
Assume for argument's sake that this latest USG "investigation" officially removes "probably" from the HSCA final conclusion regarding conspiracy.
All done? Time to strike the tents, forge new plowshares, and retire to a brave, newly furrowed world?
Would such a scenario satisfy our moral obligations to define and effect justice for JFK and the untold millions collaterally damaged by his assassins?
Would it encourage or render moot continued searches by honorable radical historians for the Sponsors, Facilitators, and Mechanics of the assassination and cover-up?
Would it encourage or deter the war profiteers who endlessly write cash grab books and blogs in which they knowingly regurgitate with airs of discovery long-known facts?
What is your endgame? Answer the question.
Because if you refuse, then all that you're doing is planning a route without a destination.
I think the "endgame," as you call it, is perfectly clear: follow up any and all leads to discover how deep into the Kennedy government the assassination plotting went, and to reveal what similar government involvements may have been behind the Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King assassinations.
Historical researching of a crime isn't like a normal criminal investigation. For one thing, it's unlikely that anyone will ever be brought to justice for their roles in the assassination. Nearly all of the Big Players, from Angleton and Dulles to GHW Bush and Lyndon John are all dead and gone. There may be a shooter or spotter still alive, but I doubt it.
Still, learning the truth in and of itself is vitally important, and is the true "end game." We have to root out not just the conspiracy to kill Kennedy, but the follow-on conspiracies both to cover-up that initial conspiracy, as well as the silencing of dozens of witnesses. We have to think of this in a similar light to the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission (the TRC). They weren't necessarily looking to convict individuals, though many deserved it. They were aiming for a complete accounting of what happened and who participated.
Until we have a full accounting of the truth behind the hundreds of crimes surrounding the JFK, RFK and MLK assassinations, and the ensuing endemic coverups that were used to hide the truth, we'll never know how broken our current system is. Nor will we know what future safeguards will be needed to be put in place to do a better job in protecting or Democracy from such a tragedy ever happening again.
Great comment. You have explicated the “end game “ perfectly. Thanks for putting my thoughts to words
Thank you for your valuable reply.
Much of it provokes agreement and thought. But I strongly disagree with two of your foundational conclusions:
-- I am convinced that the JFK conspiracy was a supra-national operation. To restrict your focus on the broadly accepted "American coup d'etat" model is to make a mockery of the cui bono investigative method which, when applied to this case and refined by the means/motive/opportunity metric, reveals likely complicity by, for starters, hard line Soviet players.
-- If we expand our concepts of justice in this instance, then I am convinced that it remains attainable. And for me it is not dependent upon convicting surviving original conspirators, but rather exposing and severely damaging the existing system from which they emerged.
As my bio offered below indicates, I am a co-founder of the original JFK Truth and Amnesty Commission. I bring it up to assure you that I'm quite familiar with the earlier South African model on which our ultimately stymied effort was based.
Thanks again.
Charles Drago
Author of the Introduction to "A Certain Arrogance" by George Michael Evica; author of the Afterword to "Coup in Dallas" by H.P. Albarelli, Jr.; nominator of Jim Garrison for a "Profile in Courage Award"; co-founder of the "JFK Truth and Amnesty Commission"; co-producr of the "Second Research Conference of 'The Third Decade'"; co-author of the Evica-Drago Conspiracy Model; author of numerous papers delivered at national JFK assassination-themed conferences and published in scholarly journals; author of "Autumn Too Long", a lecture commissioned and e-published by the AARC; creator of "The Doppelganger Gambit" hypothesis; creator of the "Chicago plot as Dallas security ruse" hypothesis; etc.
I am by no means unaware of the lengths to which the US bad actors could have and most likely did use any and all resources at their disposal to eliminate the President, and cover up any ensuing investigation. But I am unaware of any "complicity by...hard line Soviet players" as you mention in your reply. What exactly are you referring to?
When it comes to the killing of Kennedy, the US military, CIA and Secret Service had plenty of cards to play, from reducing the effectiveness of the security detail, to hiring Cuban assassins connected to the Bay of Pigs, to the cleaning of the limousine, and the falsification of the autopsy. Angleton for one, and Curtis LeMay for another, would have definitely not wanted any connection to any "outside the loop" contacts who could not be trusted, and the Soviets at time were surely seen as much an enemy to their plans as Kennedy.
There are loops, and there are loops. The Soviet Union was not a monolithic cultural entity. Hardliners and reformers were at each others' throats -- figuratively and literally.
The Cold War was the source of immense wealth and power for its major combatants. JFK represented the prime threat not TO peace, but rather OF peace. And Khrushchev was with him. The enemy of my enemy ...
I'm pressed for time, but I humbly suggest that you check out the Evica-Drago Conspiracy Model and it's Sponsors/Facilitators/Mechanics breakdown. Also my ARRC lecture, which is available on its YouTube page. And my Afterword to Albarelli's "Coup in Dallas".
Again, I disagree with many of your conclusions. One glaring example is your "Cuban assassins" claim, which is wholly unsupported by the evidence.
As for LeMay, consider the possibility that for all of his power and swagger, he was not a Sponsor of the Dallas action, but rather a Facilitator.
Be well.
I think it would behoove you to at least qualify your assertions -- perhaps to state them as probabilities, since neither you nor anyone else at this point has dispositive evidence about what actually happened in Dallas that day.
My Evica, Albarelli, and ARRC works listed in my bio above contain what you ask for minus probabilities.
TemplarScribe -- I meant to add the friendly reminder that confirmation bias is fatal to even the best-intentioned research -- a lesson I learned the hard way.
We need to understand the structural and systemic flaws that allowed such a crime and coverup to happen… which flaws still exist today.
If you call Abraham Bolden, you should also call Christopher Fulton. He has a similar experience in terms of imprisonment because of what he knows of the JFK assassination.
I’d have liked to have seen Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald Porter take part in these hearings, maybe they could appear in future.
Historian Alexis Coe is up on X, people might post replies to advise her why the Warren Commission version of the JFK assassination is so ludicrous. Send her here or to kennedysandking.com, it will save her from many many mistakes, if she has the scholarly nous to realize how little she actually knows about the assassination's details, Oswald's role, and on and on and on.
As a commenter said on here recently, "Hope springs eternal."
I wasn't able to see most of the hearing. Will there be a full transcript released of Mr. Bolden's testimony? He was hard to hear, given that he mainly couldn't speak into the microphone. I think A.I.-edited audio could pick up what he said well. Shame on his team for not helping him sit up and speak into the microphone! They could've moved him over a bit, and the microphone would've picked him up.
Anyone else unable to access hearing?
Accessed but couldn't hear Bolden.
Luna’s hearing is on YouTube right now. Bolden is about to testify. His mike is not working a parkland doctor is testifying now