"The notion that CIA was involved in the death of John F. Kennedy is absolutely false.”
What would be their response to their alleged involvement in all the assassinations, coups d'etat, and horrendous plans and programs (e.g. Operation Phoenix, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird, MKUltra, etc.) in which they are suspect?
The same.
Also, what does the CIA's "spokesperson" know about anything of consequence? Likely nothing.
Republican congressman Tim Burchett said recently that the intelligence agencies refuse to hand over even non-classified information that the Oversight Committee is lawfully entitled to. They just won't do it and won't even offer an excuse for not doing it. They are saying in effect that they are above the law, that they alone decide what they will do, and there's nothing we-the-people can do about it.
We're living in something akin to the Fourth Reich. That's not an overstatement.
All fine. But for the record, Lee Oswald was no leftist. He was an undercover provocateur in the mold of his hero Herbert Philbrick. Many many more puzzle pieces fit together when he is understood this way.
John Newman has proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Angleton and his CI unit created the legend that tied Oswald into Mexico and the lie of his involvement with KGB - and Newman did it by tracing Angleton’s fingerprints through the handling of Oswald’s 201 file and the materials from the Mexico City office.
This tracing, together with Fonzi’s work on Philips, and Morley’s exposure of Johannides, pushes CIA complicity from theory to certainty. Personally I don’t see CIA supplying the shooters - and I don’t think Reiner is correct, either - but CIA is all over the preparation, resourcing, and cover-up in Dallas.
An Agency that has a documented history of assassinations, regime change operations, black ops, disseminating propaganda, establishing media assets & maintaining plausible deniability — is not in the truth-telling business...
Release the documents and prove your innocence. The only national security concerns the CIA has is the ensuing uproar that will come when the country learns that not only were top level operatives and military brass involved/responsible, but that the CIA covered it up for this long.
It would be interesting to ask the CIA….if you transposed all we know about the assassination into Russia instead of the US….what would a CIA analyst conclude? Would they conclude Russian intelligence was innocent?
That Angleton/Harvey/Phillips used Oswald in a plot to kill JFK I think is beyond dispute. We can thank Reiner for elevating that notion to the cutting edge of the public’s understanding.
Jerome Corsi PhD released a new book on the subject about a week ago, and after you read it you may want to write a new Substack
The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear https://a.co/d/0eLSlCs
I woke up with this troubling question. My apologies for asking it. But if the CIA representative shared information with you germane to the question of the assassination and some of the major “suspects” and you are unable to share it through the promise of “off the record”, where does this put you? Where does it put us?
Outstanding job Jeff. I agree with everything you conclude except I am a holdout on the real Oswald visiting the embassies in Mexico City. I am just starting Our Man in Mexico so I will see if I get convinced. So pleased with your continuing efforts.
Great piece, keep them coming. You provide a real service to American citizens. Very much appreciate the Reiner/O'Brien pocast and your contribution to that. The CIA is not now, nor has it ever been in the business of telling the truth. Their formative regulations show that they work to create plausible deniability of their own actions so are committed to misleading the public about how they have behaved. None of that has changed and they have never been held accountable.
I'm going to reread Our Man In Mexico, one of my top five books related to the assassination. There may be a third possibility regarding CIA involvement in the assassination and the real mystery could actually be what happened in Mexico City. It might be that the process of withholding requested documents is the coverup and the information contained in the documents may prove to be valueless. Reading A Woman I Know left me confused about current thought regarding the CIA.
"The notion that CIA was involved in the death of John F. Kennedy is absolutely false.”
What would be their response to their alleged involvement in all the assassinations, coups d'etat, and horrendous plans and programs (e.g. Operation Phoenix, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird, MKUltra, etc.) in which they are suspect?
The same.
Also, what does the CIA's "spokesperson" know about anything of consequence? Likely nothing.
Republican congressman Tim Burchett said recently that the intelligence agencies refuse to hand over even non-classified information that the Oversight Committee is lawfully entitled to. They just won't do it and won't even offer an excuse for not doing it. They are saying in effect that they are above the law, that they alone decide what they will do, and there's nothing we-the-people can do about it.
We're living in something akin to the Fourth Reich. That's not an overstatement.
All fine. But for the record, Lee Oswald was no leftist. He was an undercover provocateur in the mold of his hero Herbert Philbrick. Many many more puzzle pieces fit together when he is understood this way.
OK for sake of argument, CIA uninvolved.
My next question then is: why did Helms, Joannides, Phillips, Angleton, etc. all lie to and/or obstruct federal investigations?
John Newman has proved, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Angleton and his CI unit created the legend that tied Oswald into Mexico and the lie of his involvement with KGB - and Newman did it by tracing Angleton’s fingerprints through the handling of Oswald’s 201 file and the materials from the Mexico City office.
This tracing, together with Fonzi’s work on Philips, and Morley’s exposure of Johannides, pushes CIA complicity from theory to certainty. Personally I don’t see CIA supplying the shooters - and I don’t think Reiner is correct, either - but CIA is all over the preparation, resourcing, and cover-up in Dallas.
An Agency that has a documented history of assassinations, regime change operations, black ops, disseminating propaganda, establishing media assets & maintaining plausible deniability — is not in the truth-telling business...
Release the documents and prove your innocence. The only national security concerns the CIA has is the ensuing uproar that will come when the country learns that not only were top level operatives and military brass involved/responsible, but that the CIA covered it up for this long.
As was told to me by a decorated Vietnam Special Forces veteran-
"The CIA says nothing, does nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served.
They're the greatest collection of liars and criminals under one roof, and they're an abomination."
It would be interesting to ask the CIA….if you transposed all we know about the assassination into Russia instead of the US….what would a CIA analyst conclude? Would they conclude Russian intelligence was innocent?
Looks like free speech will soon be a thing of the past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSM89iNTGWw
We're on the way to being like China where it's illegal to criticize or even tell a joke about the government:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5zAbdvIO8s
That Angleton/Harvey/Phillips used Oswald in a plot to kill JFK I think is beyond dispute. We can thank Reiner for elevating that notion to the cutting edge of the public’s understanding.
Jerome Corsi PhD released a new book on the subject about a week ago, and after you read it you may want to write a new Substack
The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis: Forensic Analysis of the JFK Autopsy X-Rays Proves Two Headshots from the Right Front and One from the Rear https://a.co/d/0eLSlCs
I woke up with this troubling question. My apologies for asking it. But if the CIA representative shared information with you germane to the question of the assassination and some of the major “suspects” and you are unable to share it through the promise of “off the record”, where does this put you? Where does it put us?
The denial IS the admission with the agency
Outstanding job Jeff. I agree with everything you conclude except I am a holdout on the real Oswald visiting the embassies in Mexico City. I am just starting Our Man in Mexico so I will see if I get convinced. So pleased with your continuing efforts.
Great piece, keep them coming. You provide a real service to American citizens. Very much appreciate the Reiner/O'Brien pocast and your contribution to that. The CIA is not now, nor has it ever been in the business of telling the truth. Their formative regulations show that they work to create plausible deniability of their own actions so are committed to misleading the public about how they have behaved. None of that has changed and they have never been held accountable.
I'm going to reread Our Man In Mexico, one of my top five books related to the assassination. There may be a third possibility regarding CIA involvement in the assassination and the real mystery could actually be what happened in Mexico City. It might be that the process of withholding requested documents is the coverup and the information contained in the documents may prove to be valueless. Reading A Woman I Know left me confused about current thought regarding the CIA.